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  • #76
    Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View Post
    Trumps current headache with China is a direct result of Nixon’s foreign policy decisions with China. Likewise, both OSHA and the EPA are Nixon’s creation. Really, the biggest criticism I hear about Eisenhower is that he wasn’t a war general, but a pencil pusher, for most of his military career and his tendency to use the newly created CIA (established under Truman in 1947), to do his bidding.
    China was fairly well contained until Bill Clinton granted them "favored nation" status, and it was right around then that "Made in China" started to dominate store shelves. Ever since Trump took office, I've started seeing more "Made in America" labels, and we'll be in better shape once the House gets off the impeachment bandwagon and approves the US/Mexico/Canada trade agreement.
    Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
    But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
    Than a fool in the eyes of God


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    • #77
      Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
      More honest? than? ME?

      Shuny - I work with the "social problems of the South" nearly every day of my life. I don't think it gets any more honest than that.



      I'm aware of a tiny fringe group of loonies who hold that view, and the rest of us just shrug and press on. Even some of the guys I know who say things like "The South shall RISE AGAIN" only do it to get a reaction.
      I am aware of much more , and it is not a tiny fringe group.

      I believe that Texas is a different world than the Antebellum South.
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      • #78
        Michael Gerson:

        Loyalty to Trump among Republicans is proved by the loosening of all other loyalties — to truth, to honesty and to the national good.
        https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...ebb_story.html
        "Yes. President Trump is a huge embarrassment. And it’s an embarrassment to evangelical Christianity that there appear to be so many who will celebrate precisely the aspects that I see Biblically as most lamentable and embarrassing." Southern Baptist leader Albert Mohler Jr.

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        • #79
          Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
          I am aware of much more , and it is not a tiny fringe group.

          I believe that Texas is a different world than the Antebellum South.
          We really are.
          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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          • #80
            Originally posted by Charles View Post
            He's entitled to his opinion, and you're entitled to post it.
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            • #81
              Originally posted by Charles View Post
              Since it's protected by a paywall, I'll just dismiss it out of hand as the typical foolish bleatings of a butt-hurt Bush-baby neocon Never-Trumper. Pretty much what I likely would have done even if I'd read it.
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              • #82
                Originally posted by NorrinRadd View Post
                Since it's protected by a paywall, I'll just dismiss it out of hand as the typical foolish bleatings of a butt-hurt Bush-baby neocon Never-Trumper. Pretty much what I likely would have done even if I'd read it.
                Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
                Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
                But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:

                go with the flow the river knows . . .

                Frank

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
                  No matter where you live in the South you cannot escape the South. I do live in Hillsborough, NC a blue island in a sea of red.
                  Is it as blue as, say, Carrboro? Just out of curiosity.
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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by JimL View Post
                    Irrelevant, many in the South are still butt hurt for Lincolns leadership in crushing the Souths treasonous insurrection regardless of his post war policy. There are still a lot of John Wilkes Booth types in the South, the Klan, confederate flag wavers, racists, i.e. Lincoln haters, and though their ilk is waning they continue to make themselves known.
                    Come down here and say that.

                    Mind you, you'll just embarrass yourself again, but if you actually believe that drivel, come down here and say it to our faces.

                    We probably won't laugh more than five minutes, honest. Well, the black folks might - that last bit was overly stupid. They wouldn't stay here if that garbage were true.

                    War ended 155 years ago. Jim Crow ended more than 60 years ago. But haters gotta hate, I suppose. Pity you haven't looked in a mirror to say that crap - maybe you'd realize your the one filled with hate.
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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by Ronson View Post
                      That would be amusing since Eisenhower was about as conservative as they come. Reagan, Nixon and the Bushes each expanded government more than Eisenhower. And it was Eisenhower who warned future generations about entrenched bureaucrats and getting involved in useless wars.

                      If any of those Republicans were RINOs it would be Nixon. He was a liberal by almost any standard.
                      Eisenhower was a middle of the roader, a moderate, who in this modern day republican party would be considered a Rino. Even Reagan would be a Rino by todays republian standards. Nixon, the "I am not a crook" crook, he'd probably fit right in.

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by JimL View Post
                        Eisenhower was a middle of the roader, a moderate, who in this modern day republican party would be considered a Rino.
                        In other words, today's nutty out-of-touch Democrats would be screaming "RIGHT WING EXTREMIST".

                        Even Reagan would be a Rino by todays republian standards. Nixon, the "I am not a crook" crook, he'd probably fit right in.
                        You just added this in there to prove your bubble status, eh?
                        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by JimL View Post
                          Lilpix, comprehension, comprehension, learn to read! This is about Southern Conservatives and their feelings toward Lincoln, not about the South and it's feelings about America.
                          The South is overwhelmingly conservative - and the South, conservative and liberal, has a positive view of Lincoln.

                          Stop sticking your foot in your mouth and it won't hurt so much getting it back out.
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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                            China was fairly well contained until Bill Clinton granted them "favored nation" status, and it was right around then that "Made in China" started to dominate store shelves. Ever since Trump took office, I've started seeing more "Made in America" labels, and we'll be in better shape once the House gets off the impeachment bandwagon and approves the US/Mexico/Canada trade agreement.
                            True, Clinton threw open the door, but Nixon cracked it open.
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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by JimL View Post
                              Eisenhower was a middle of the roader, a moderate, who in this modern day republican party would be considered a Rino. Even Reagan would be a Rino by todays republian standards. Nixon, the "I am not a crook" crook, he'd probably fit right in.
                              I don't know where you are accessing this "today's Republican standard". No matter who the subject is, there is always someone further to the right or left to call them a RINO or a DINO. Myself being a Libertarian, I'll let your party decide who is/is not Republican enough.

                              From my perspective, based on performance as Commander in Chief, Eisenhower was more conservative than any of his successors from either party.

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                                I did a quick search of liberal talking points for anything upon which that oculd be based, and came up completely empty.

                                I DO remember that's one of the reasons my Dad first began thinking about voting Republican!
                                IMO, Calvin Coolidge was probably the most conservative of any WH occupant. I'm not sure a succeeding president could be so hands-off as he was, as things are so much more complicated today.

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