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Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostI can't prove a negative, Charles. But I know LOTS of Christians, and am very much involved in the leadership of the largest protestant denomination in the US --- This notion Christians believe that "don't worry, God will just take care of it, Jesus will return before things get too bad" is just nutty. I don't know a single person who advocates that.
It would be up to Tassman to prove that this is actually a common notion among Christians.
And there is this really huge contingent, making up a large part of the current GOP, that have this huge distrust of science in general because of these two science conspiracy myths that are often supported by our Christian leaders and lay teachers in our Churches. So much so it is now driving National policy making on the issue because of the large number of Christian leaders in our government that hail from backgrounds influenced by those same Christian leaders and lay teachers who have embraced those same science conspiracy myths.Last edited by oxmixmudd; 12-11-2019, 08:23 AM.My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostI can't prove a negative, Charles.
Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post'But I know LOTS of Christians, and am very much involved in the leadership of the largest protestant denomination in the US --- This notion Christians believe that "don't worry, God will just take care of it, Jesus will return before things get too bad" is just nutty. I don't know a single person who advocates that.
Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostIt would be up to Tassman to prove that this is actually a common notion among Christians.
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostNo - it's not nutty CP. I've seen those same words expressed here on this web site. This forum or Nat Sci. And I've heard it expressed out there in the real world. There are a large number of people that believe mankind is not powerful enough to hurt God's creation - i.e. the Earth. That God won't let us destroy our planet if we want to. And that is why they think AGW is hype. There are others that have been convinced by WattsUP and sites like it (or even less fact based) that AGW is some sort of global science conspiracy - not unlike those that think evolution is some sort of giant science conspiracy.
And there is this really huge contingent, making up a large part of the current GOP, that have this huge distrust of science in general because of these two science conspiracy myths that are often supported by our Christian leaders and lay teachers in our Churches. So much so it is now driving National policy making on the issue because of the large number of Christian leaders in our government that hail from backgrounds influenced by those same Christian leaders and lay teachers who have embraced those same science conspiracy myths.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View PostWhere is God in any of your reasoning Jim? Do you think God will allow men to destroy the world? No, because that His job.
Yes MM, if we want to destroy our planet in terms of reducing it's habitability, I believe God will let us do it. We certainly have the power to do so.
Have you noticed God stopping is from hunting animals to extinction?
Have you noticed God stopping us from destroying entire ecosystems, or producing new deserts, or poisoning groundwater or rendering large areas of land unproductive for farming or human habitation?
Have you noticed God stopping is from stopping the flow if large rivers, or cutting down entire mountains to get the mineral wealth under them while polluting the rivers and streams fed from them?
And just how do you know our actions are not the angels of death and sickness in Revelation? IIRC, 1/3 of mankind dies. 1/3 of the creatures in the sea die.Last edited by oxmixmudd; 12-11-2019, 08:34 AM.My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostWell there you go. I guess one of the people I heard it from is MM.
Yes MM, if we want to destroy our planet in terms of reducing it's habitability, I believe God will let us do it. We certainly have the power to do so.
And just how do you know our actions are not the angels of death and sickness in Revelation?Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostNo - it's not nutty CP. I've seen those same words expressed here on this web site. This forum or Nat Sci. And I've heard it expressed out there in the real world. There are a large number of people that believe mankind is not powerful enough to hurt God's creation - i.e. the Earth. That God won't let us destroy our planet if we want to. And that is why they think AGW is hype. There are others that have been convinced by WattsUP and sites like it (or even less fact based) that AGW is some sort of global science conspiracy - not unlike those that think evolution is some sort of giant science conspiracy.
And there is this really huge contingent, making up a large part of the current GOP, that have this huge distrust of science in general because of these two science conspiracy myths that are often supported by our Christian leaders and lay teachers in our Churches. So much so it is now driving National policy making on the issue because of the large number of Christian leaders in our government that hail from backgrounds influenced by those same Christian leaders and lay teachers who have embraced those same science conspiracy myths.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostThere are a large number of people that believe mankind is not powerful enough to hurt God's creation - i.e. the Earth. That God won't let us destroy our planet if we want to.Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostI guess one of the people I heard it from is MM.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Charles View PostNeither did I ask you to do that when I pointed out: "Neither could you, seemingly, provide examples in which he is "dishonestly assigning them to broad categories of people, especially if those people are Christians".
It's what his name MEANS! When you look up "Tassman" in the dictionary, it says "one who singles out a single person's quote to unjustly represent broad swaths of society"*.
Here is a single person who also happens to be a Republican congressman. Tim Walberg has said:
Much better.
*ok, I may have just totally made that upThe first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostWhat is it about you, Charles, that tends to make you want to get in between everybody else and their disagreements? Tassman OFTEN uses quotes of one person to represent whole swaths of society - and he uses lots of adjectives and adverbs to build that person up to make it sound like he's "THE AUTHORITY" on a topic - like he did with Criswell.
It's what his name MEANS! When you look up "Tassman" in the dictionary, it says "one who singles out a single person's quote to unjustly represent broad swaths of society"*.
Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostYeah, a SINGLE PERSON.
Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostBeen much better all along!
Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
*ok, I may have just totally made that up
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
Securely anchored to the Rock amid every storm of trial, testing or tribulation.
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Originally posted by Charles View PostThis statement combined with no examples to support it is rather funny.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by seer View PostWell if we are the angels of death just remember WHO sent them. And also remember that God will destroy this planet. This is not our home Jim...My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostYou certainly didn't hear it from me.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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