Why is Trump's white nationalist aide untouchable?

[Mountain Man]

Yes, what with their genocide, wealth theft, slave owning, and all.

Of course American history is far more complex and nuanced than your simplistic labels suggest, but this is how liberals argue these days, with labels instead of ideas.

[Roy]

Of course American history is far more complex and nuanced than your simplistic labels suggest, but this is how liberals argue these days, with labels instead of ideas.

[Whateverman]

Of course American history is far more complex and nuanced than your simplistic labels suggest, but this is how liberals argue these days, with labels instead of ideas.

Congrats on your own contribution to argumentum ad titulus.

[Bill the Cat]

Yes, what with their genocide,

None supported or advocated for genocide

wealth theft

None advocated for theft.

, slave owning, and all.

Some fought for it and others fought against it. Compromise was made to get things finalized. Slavery was unfortunately one area that won out that shouldn't have, but that doesn't invalidate the rest of the good they accomplished.

[whag]

Of course American history is far more complex and nuanced than your simplistic labels suggest, but this is how liberals argue these days, with labels instead of ideas.

Says the guy who labels all liberals as Marxist and embraces the very nuanced slogan, MAGA.

[whag]

None supported or advocated for genocide



None advocated for theft.

Weird how genocide and land theft happened without any support for it.

Some fought for it and others fought against it. Compromise was made to get things finalized. Slavery was unfortunately one area that won out that shouldn't have, but that doesn't invalidate the rest of the good they accomplished.

Neither does it excuse western culture for the enormous sin of treating human beings as a commodity.

Strangely enough, the commoditization of human beings is still an ugly side effect of capitalism, another product of western culture.

[seer]

Neither does it excuse western culture for the enormous sin of treating human beings as a commodity.

Tell me which "culture" didn't practice slavery in the past whag? One of those you claimed to like so much?

[rogue06]

Tell me which "culture" didn't practice slavery in the past whag? One of those you claimed to like so much?

The Soviets had its gulags (which a couple of Sander's campaign officials spoke wistfully of and wanted to instate in the U.S.) and the Chicoms still use slave labor. And several Muslim countries still have issues with slavery.

[whag]

Tell me which "culture" didn't practice slavery in the past whag? One of those you claimed to like so much?

The point isn’t that slavery want practiced by other cultures but that “cultural chauvinism” isn’t called for in light of inconsistency of rights apportionment and intercultural influences, which you’ve so far 100% ignored.

Again, the U.S. would not exist had it granted property rights to Native Americans and human rights to slaves. That makes this ambiguous enough not to brag about who has the best culture.

[whag]

The Soviets had its gulags (which a couple of Sander's campaign officials spoke wistfully of and wanted to instate in the U.S.) and the Chicoms still use slave labor. And several Muslim countries still have issues with slavery.

All patriarchal cultures have unfortunately relied on land theft, genocide, slavery, and the erasure of other cultures to advance, which unfortunately carries the consequences over generations. Hence failed American experiment.

[seer]

The point isn’t that slavery want practiced by other cultures but that “cultural chauvinism” isn’t called for in light of inconsistency of rights apportionment and intercultural influences, which you’ve so far 100% ignored.

Again, the U.S. would not exist had it granted property rights to Native Americans and human rights to slaves. That makes this ambiguous enough not to brag about who has the best culture.

So you can't name a culture where slavery wasn't practiced. And can you name a culture that has the freedoms the West does today? Why isn't that worth bragging about? And I have no idea what you mean by intercultural influences - who, what?

[Bill the Cat]

Weird how genocide and land theft happened without any support for it.

Considering there was no genocide performed or supported by the founding fathers... and as far as land theft goes, I'll just leave it at the fact that you live on stolen land too, and you are doing nothing about it.

Neither does it excuse western culture for the enormous sin of treating human beings as a commodity.

Never said it did. But the great thing about this country is that they created a framework for us to better ourselves and rid ourselves of such happenings. Additionally, Eastern culture enslaved others too, so it isn't just us.

Strangely enough, the commoditization of human beings is still an ugly side effect of capitalism, another product of western culture.

No it isn't. Humans are EMPLOYEES, free to come and go as they please. Commodities are not.

[Bill the Cat]

[Bill the Cat]

All patriarchal cultures have unfortunately relied on land theft, genocide, slavery, and the erasure of other cultures to advance, which unfortunately carries the consequences over generations. Hence failed American experiment.

No it isn't. The American Experiment is getting incrementally better as these nuances are addressed through time.

[Mountain Man]

Says the guy who labels all liberals as Marxist and embraces the very nuanced slogan, MAGA.

Please provide quotes to substantiate this accusation.