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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    If a newspaper can't verify a story is true, they should not publish it. It's that simple. At the very least, say in the article that it is unverified speculation.

    CNN is supposed to be a trusted top news organization, not a tabloid. And yet, over the past few years, they have published fake story after fake story.
    The story was already public when the Lawyer for Parnas stated it. CNN said "according to Parnas is lawyer" and that Parnas lawyer was the origin of the accussation is public knowledge. Not fake news on the media's part.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Man View Post
    Obviously the dispute is over whether or not CNN made a good faith effort to verify the facts before running the story. That they apparently didn't bother to check the claims against Nune's publicly available travel itinerary does not speak well for their diligence. Or worse, maybe they did check, but they suppressed the information because it didn't fit their narrative?

    Whatever the case, CNN doesn't look so good here, so it's par for the course.
    For one thing, CNN wasn't the first one to go with the story, so you should verify the facts before spouting off about CNN. Second, the facts that they reported was that Parnas Atty made this accussation against Nunes. And he did! What do you think, Parnas and or his Atty just picked Nunes name out of a hat? Nunes couldn't even admit to not communicating with Parnas when asked on his favorite FOX NEWS media site. Oh I can't remember, I talk to so many people, how can you expect me to remember talking to this guy about a conspiracy scheme to shake down a foriegn government. Besides that, Nunes was already caught once before of sitting on the investigative committee while scheming with the subject (White House) of the investigation, so this shouldn't be at all surprising to you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oxmixmudd View Post
    Not true Sparko. That is the real Trump era 'fake news' - that anything but fox or brietbart is fake news. What you call the MSM (which includes CNN) is still the best source for accurate, thorough reporting of the news. That is not to say any specific news source is perfect or does not make mistakes, or that some of those sources are not consistently more or less biased than others.

    But it is to say that sources like fox or breitbart are some of the worst and most biased sources out there, and that they prey on the paranoia of their primary audience.
    There is a thread or two somewhere on this board that Meh_Gerbil started that lists many of the verified fake news CNN stories over the years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimLamebrain View Post
    ...the facts that they reported was that Parnas Atty made this accussation against Nunes.
    Yes, but they could have done their homework and pointed out that the accusation doesn't jive with Nunes' travel itinerary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Man View Post
    Yes, but they could have done their homework and pointed out that the accusation doesn't jive with Nunes' travel itinerary.
    That would have required actual journalistic integrity.
    "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    That would have required actual journalistic integrity.
    Journalism today is posting on a blog or memes on facebook.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    There is a thread or two somewhere on this board that Meh_Gerbil started that lists many of the verified fake news CNN stories over the years.
    You can point me to it if you'd like.

    What I find when I scan various news sites, or especially when I look closely at the current barrage of the claims of 'fake news', is very similar to what I found when I started checking out AIG 'evidences' against the actual facts and scientific evidence. That the cries of 'fake news' are at best exaggerated if not completely false - especially when they emerge carried by a paranoid pro-trump "the media is out to get him" wrapper.
    He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    Journalism today is posting on a blog or memes on facebook.
    no - journalism today still lives in places like the WP or NYT. real journalists writing real articles with substance, though noting that they often take longer than 1 minute to read, which makes them incomprehensible to many - unfortunately.
    He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me."

    "So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets"

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    Quote Originally Posted by oxmixmudd View Post
    You can point me to it if you'd like.

    What I find when I scan various news sites, or especially when I look closely at the current barrage of the claims of 'fake news', is very similar to what I found when I started checking out AIG 'evidences' against the actual facts and scientific evidence. That the cries of 'fake news' are at best exaggerated if not completely false - especially when they emerge carried by a paranoid pro-trump "the media is out to get him" wrapper.
    You can look it up if you want. I am not bothering debating with you at this time. I just provided it as an FYI. I doubt it would convince you anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    Journalism today is posting on a blog or memes on facebook.
    "Just remember, what you're seeing and what you're hearing is not what's happening. Just stick with us, don't believe that crap........." Nope, not from George Orwells 1984, that's Trump 2018.

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