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    Quote Originally Posted by JimL View Post
    True, Trumps crime is far worse than Nixons, although there are similarities.
    You're totally missing it, Jim. You can't just call "bad actions" a crime. In Nixon's case, it was absolutely indisputable. With you, it's just hype.

    If, indeed, Trump's "crimes" were "far worse than Nixon's", then your puppetmasters wouldn't need a room full of lawyers to try to help them con the American people into believing it was a real crime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Watermelon View Post
    So if someone makes an allegation against you all you have to do is successfully obstruct any investigation attempts and you’d be fine?

    I would’ve thought there would be some sort of law against that.
    There is, intimidation of witnesses in an attempt to keep them from testifying is criminal obstruction of justice

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimL View Post
    There is, intimidation of witnesses in an attempt to keep them from testifying is criminal obstruction of justice
    If it's that clear-cut, then why are they Democrats having such a hard time conning the American people into believing that.

    HEY!!!! They should have YOU go on the speaking circuit to SPLAIN it all!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post


    My whole discussion is answering JimL's nutty use of the Nixon impeachment (process) to compare with Trump's. I'm simply pointing out that in the Nixon situation, there was an actual crime that nobody was disputing that triggered the impeachment process.

    But, if somebody makes an allegation against me, I'd demand that they prove it. Actual facts, not just a bunch of hype and circus.
    It's not a crime against the accused until it is proven, CP. That's why there's a trial, in this case in the Senate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    You really could DuckDuckGo this for yourself, Charles.

    On Saturday, July 27, the House Judiciary Committee approved its first article of impeachment charging President Nixon with obstruction of justice. Six of the Committee's 17 Republicans joined all 21 Democrats in voting for the article. The following Monday the Committee approved its second article charging Nixon with abuse of power. The next day, the third and final article, contempt of Congress, was approved.


    The impeachment process was in full swing when Nixon resigned. Perhaps you're confusing the impeachment process in the House (which was happening) with the trial in the Senate - which never happened, due to Nixon's resignation DURING the impeachment phase.
    The Judiciary committee voted but the House did not. Impeachment begins with the House passing articles of impeachment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimL View Post
    It's not a crime against the accused until it is proven, CP.
    EGGzackly... so stop calling it a crime. Right now, it's just more allegations by the Democrats who can't even figure out what to call it without turning to focus groups.

    That's why there's a trial, in this case in the Senate.
    hehehehehe...... yeah, about that...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teallaura View Post
    The Judiciary committee voted but the House did not. Impeachment begins with the House passing articles of impeachment.
    The PROCESS had "begun", oh pedantic one.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    You really could DuckDuckGo this for yourself, Charles.

    On Saturday, July 27, the House Judiciary Committee approved its first article of impeachment charging President Nixon with obstruction of justice. Six of the Committee's 17 Republicans joined all 21 Democrats in voting for the article. The following Monday the Committee approved its second article charging Nixon with abuse of power. The next day, the third and final article, contempt of Congress, was approved.


    The impeachment process was in full swing when Nixon resigned. Perhaps you're confusing the impeachment process in the House (which was happening) with the trial in the Senate - which never happened, due to Nixon's resignation DURING the impeachment phase.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    If it's that clear-cut, then why are they Democrats having such a hard time conning the American people into believing that.

    HEY!!!! They should have YOU go on the speaking circuit to SPLAIN it all!!!!
    Because, there are people who know better, like those with law backgrounds, who are in a state of denial that no amount of evidence will convince. Then there are those who lead busy lives that are not really paying that much attention. But the polls show that they are slowing getting the picture, and that is how it usually works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    The PROCESS had "begun", oh pedantic one.
    Yup but y'all were arguing about when impeachment begins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    You're totally missing it, Jim. You can't just call "bad actions" a crime. In Nixon's case, it was absolutely indisputable. With you, it's just hype.
    No, Nixons involvment wasn't absolutely indisputable, which is why he wasn't impeached until his firing of the Atty General and the Special Prosecutor.
    If, indeed, Trump's "crimes" were "far worse than Nixon's", then your puppetmasters wouldn't need a room full of lawyers to try to help them con the American people into believing it was a real crime.
    The American people aren't lawyers or Constitutional scholars.

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