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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    Nixon wasn't impeached Jim.
    Yes, but only because he resigned after his Republican defenders in Congress told him that it was a forgone conclusion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimL View Post
    Yes, and do you remember what the crime was that was the cause of the impeachment Inquiry into Nixon? I'll tell you. It was the attempt by Nixon to have his attorney general fire the special prosecutor. Trump did that a long time ago when he tried and failed to get Mcgahn, Jeff Sessions, and his former campaign manager, can't remember the losers name, to fire Mueller. Trumps already been given far more leeway than was Nixon.
    It started with an actual undeniable crime - the June 17, 1972, break-in at the Democratic National Committee headquarters at the Watergate Office Building.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    Wait!! You mean there was an actual undeniable crime BEFORE impeachment began?!?!
    Nixon wasn't impeached.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charles View Post
    Nixon wasn't impeached.
    Yes, we know that... but the process was begun. Note the word "began"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    Wait!! You mean there was an actual undeniable crime BEFORE impeachment began?!?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charles View Post
    So you are now claiming impeachment began? When?
    You really could DuckDuckGo this for yourself, Charles.

    On Saturday, July 27, the House Judiciary Committee approved its first article of impeachment charging President Nixon with obstruction of justice. Six of the Committee's 17 Republicans joined all 21 Democrats in voting for the article. The following Monday the Committee approved its second article charging Nixon with abuse of power. The next day, the third and final article, contempt of Congress, was approved.


    The impeachment process was in full swing when Nixon resigned. Perhaps you're confusing the impeachment process in the House (which was happening) with the trial in the Senate - which never happened, due to Nixon's resignation DURING the impeachment phase.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    You really could DuckDuckGo this for yourself, Charles.

    On Saturday, July 27, the House Judiciary Committee approved its first article of impeachment charging President Nixon with obstruction of justice. Six of the Committee's 17 Republicans joined all 21 Democrats in voting for the article. The following Monday the Committee approved its second article charging Nixon with abuse of power. The next day, the third and final article, contempt of Congress, was approved.


    The impeachment process was in full swing when Nixon resigned. Perhaps you're confusing the impeachment process in the House (which was happening) with the trial in the Senate - which never happened, due to Nixon's resignation DURING the impeachment phase.
    Thanks, but your original post was not about "impeachment process" but simply about "impeachment". I was confused by that but English is not my main language so that might explain it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charles View Post
    Thanks, but your original post was not about "impeachment process" but simply about "impeachment". I was confused by that but English is not my main language so that might explain it.
    A lot of people get confused because impeachment is such an odd animal.

    Here's a pretty good article on the overall impeachment (attempt) of Richard Nixon.

    Articles of impeachment had, in fact, been drafted and approved by the House Judiciary Committee.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    It started with an actual undeniable crime - the June 17, 1972, break-in at the Democratic National Committee headquarters at the Watergate Office Building.
    The impeachment inquiry started with the Saturday night massacre, when Nixon fired his Attorney general et. al. for not firing the special prosecutor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimLamebrain View Post
    The impeachment inquiry started with the Saturday night massacre, when Nixon fired his Attorney general et. al. for not firing the special prosecutor.
    You're uninformed. Read the link Cow Poke helpfully provided if you want the real facts, but the short version is the whole thing started because of an actual crime: the Watergate break-in. This was followed by arrests and convictions through which hard evidence was discovered that led straight back to the Oval Office. This prompted the Senate to appoint a special prosecutor who uncovered even more damning evidence, including public testimony from firsthand witnesses that Nixon had orchestrated the break-in, was involved in a cover-up, and that he had personally bribed the Watergate "burglars" to keep their mouths shut. It was around this time that Nixon attempted to have the special prosecutor fired. It was only then, after it was clear that Nixon was deeply involved in criminal activity, that there were calls for his impeachment.

    Contrast this with Mueller being appointed to investigate Trump without a crime ever having been committed!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Man View Post
    You're uninformed. Read the link Cow Poke helpfully provided if you want the real facts, but the short version is the whole thing started because of an actual crime: the Watergate break-in. This was followed by arrests and convictions through which hard evidence was discovered that led straight back to the Oval Office. This prompted the Senate to appoint a special prosecutor who uncovered even more damning evidence, including public testimony from firsthand witnesses that Nixon had orchestrated the break-in, was involved in a cover-up, and that he had personally bribed the Watergate "burglars" to keep their mouths shut. It was around this time that Nixon attempted to have the special prosecutor fired. It was only then, after it was clear that Nixon was deeply involved in criminal activity, that there were calls for his impeachment.

    Contrast this with Mueller being appointed to investigate Trump without a crime ever having been committed!
    Well it’s not like Trump didn’t demand loyalty of Comey, ask him to exonerate Flynn, and then fire him after Comey (way too politely) rebuffed POTUS for such reckless asks. That wasn’t suspicious at all.

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