Again, if baptism is necessary for salvation, then Jesus lied to the thief on the cross.
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So we're really gonna turn this into a thread on baptism.Geislerminian Antinomian Kenotic Charispneumaticostal Gender Mutualist-Egalitarian.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostAgain, if baptism is necessary for salvation, then Jesus lied to the thief on the cross.
I look at it only slightly differently. Baptism is a requirement only in that refusal to be baptized is not an option.My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostThat is the protestant argument of those that see it your way.
I look at it only slightly differently. Baptism is a requirement only in that refusal to be baptized is not an option.
There's a lot more that can be said, about whether any act beyond belief in the death and resurrection of Jesus is a requirement, but for the purposes of this thread, I think I can say that I we more or less agree and leave it at that.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Obama was definitely more "Presidential" that Trump - He presented himself well, was very likeable and spoke well. Trump is rude, brash and couldn't make a decent speech if his life depended on it. Just watching his rally in Pennsylvania last night on TV, his "speech" was nothing more than cheerleading the crowd with sound bites and waiting for them to cheer him on. He would make a good coach, but a lousy public speaker.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostAtheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostObama was definitely more "Presidential" that Trump - He presented himself well, was very likeable and spoke well.
As for appearing "presidential", I'm not entirely sure what that term means. If you mean aloof and arrogant, then Obama certainly qualified. Trump seems like more a man of the people. We're talking about a guy who served fast food to football players at the White House, and gave a visiting little league team a lift back home on Air Force One!
Yes, Trump is certainly "rude and brash", but so were many of our presidents throughout history, the most famous probably being Andrew Jackson who had a pet parrot that picked up his linguistic habits and reeled off a string of profanities at Jackson's funeral prompting horrified guests to demand its removal from the premises.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostHe spoke well as long as he had a teleprompter in front of him. Otherwise he was a stuttering mess.
As for appearing "presidential", I'm not entirely sure what that term means. If you mean aloof and arrogant, then Obama certainly qualified. Trump seems like more a man of the people. We're talking about a guy who served fast food to football players at the White House, and gave a visiting little league team a lift back home on Air Force One!
Yes, Trump is certainly "rude and brash", but so were many of our presidents throughout history, the most famous probably being Andrew Jackson who had a pet parrot that picked up his linguistic habits and reeled off a string of profanities at Jackson's funeral prompting horrified guests to demand its removal from the premises.
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By all accounts, the Clemson team loved the fastfood feast.
When Obama hosted a championship team, he sent them home empty handed.
https://100percentfedup.com/2010-oba...t-he-fed-them/Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by JimLamebrain View PostAnd if not necessary then Mark 16:16 is false.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostBy all accounts, the Clemson team loved the fastfood feast.
When Obama hosted a championship team, he sent them home empty handed.
https://100percentfedup.com/2010-oba...t-he-fed-them/
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Originally posted by whag View Post[Obama] clearly eclipses Trump in likability, public presentation, and being able to speak like a president.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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