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False Idol � Why the Christian Right Worships Donald Trump
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"If you believe, take the first step, it leads to Jesus Christ. If you don't believe, take the first step all the same, for you are bidden to take it. No one wants to know about your faith or unbelief, your orders are to perform the act of obedience on the spot. Then you will find yourself in the situation where faith becomes possible and where faith exists in the true sense of the word." - Dietrich Bonhoeffer, The Cost of Discipleship
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Originally posted by myth View PostDon't be obtuse. I said I hadn't provided proof; not that I didn't have any. Gimme a few minutes and I'll go gathering information for you, you sanctimonious jerk.Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.
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Originally posted by myth View PostI think it's important to let it be known I don't condone presidential crotch-grabbingRemember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.
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Originally posted by demi-conservative View Post"What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof". Until then, MM and I are not going to take your claims seriously.
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/24/n...trump-nyc.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlo...4c7_story.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/08/u...ranscript.html
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a9011021.html
https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalex.../#6414d60abc32
https://www.forbes.com/sites/rachels.../#54b5dae540a4
If you're not paying attention to the news, then that's your fault, not mine. This ought to get you started. The things I've mentioned were so well established by the news media, I didn't really expect anyone other than MM to deny them. But hey, learn something new every day."If you believe, take the first step, it leads to Jesus Christ. If you don't believe, take the first step all the same, for you are bidden to take it. No one wants to know about your faith or unbelief, your orders are to perform the act of obedience on the spot. Then you will find yourself in the situation where faith becomes possible and where faith exists in the true sense of the word." - Dietrich Bonhoeffer, The Cost of Discipleship
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Originally posted by demi-conservative View PostI've posted elsewhere that Trump has almost certainly gotten a grip on his philandering habits, otherwise 24/7 her face would be on CNN."If you believe, take the first step, it leads to Jesus Christ. If you don't believe, take the first step all the same, for you are bidden to take it. No one wants to know about your faith or unbelief, your orders are to perform the act of obedience on the spot. Then you will find yourself in the situation where faith becomes possible and where faith exists in the true sense of the word." - Dietrich Bonhoeffer, The Cost of Discipleship
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Originally posted by myth View PostYeah sorry, poor choice of phrase there. I was going for dramatic. But you do acknowledge he was once a philanderer, as far as we can tell?Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.
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Originally posted by demi-conservative View PostYes. Do you acknowledge that he's almost certainly gotten a grip on it?"If you believe, take the first step, it leads to Jesus Christ. If you don't believe, take the first step all the same, for you are bidden to take it. No one wants to know about your faith or unbelief, your orders are to perform the act of obedience on the spot. Then you will find yourself in the situation where faith becomes possible and where faith exists in the true sense of the word." - Dietrich Bonhoeffer, The Cost of Discipleship
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Originally posted by myth View PostIf you're not paying attention to the news, then that's your fault, not mine. This ought to get you started. The things I've mentioned were so well established by the news media, I didn't really expect anyone other than MM to deny them. But hey, learn something new every day.Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.
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Originally posted by demi-conservative View PostA 'conservative' that trusts Fake News, never gets old. Let's take the most recent one, there is no good evidence for personal quid pro quo between Trump and Ukraine. National quid pro quo is what diplomacy is all about."If you believe, take the first step, it leads to Jesus Christ. If you don't believe, take the first step all the same, for you are bidden to take it. No one wants to know about your faith or unbelief, your orders are to perform the act of obedience on the spot. Then you will find yourself in the situation where faith becomes possible and where faith exists in the true sense of the word." - Dietrich Bonhoeffer, The Cost of Discipleship
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On another claim, "How about using his leverage as a presidential candidate to seek business opportunities in Moscow?"
Where in the long article does it say that? You're still elephant hurling, thinking that by linking the first Fake News article you google that you provide proof. What a joke.Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.
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Originally posted by myth View PostYou mean except for the part where the Chief of Staff admitted to said quid pro quo in a press conference, then realized his giant mistake and tried to talk it back? Or the testimony of multiple administration officials talking about it? Or, I dunno....the transcripts of the phone calls?Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.
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Originally posted by demi-conservative View PostOn another claim, "How about using his leverage as a presidential candidate to seek business opportunities in Moscow?"
Where in the long article does it say that? You're still elephant hurling, thinking that by linking the first Fake News article you google that you provide proof. What a joke."If you believe, take the first step, it leads to Jesus Christ. If you don't believe, take the first step all the same, for you are bidden to take it. No one wants to know about your faith or unbelief, your orders are to perform the act of obedience on the spot. Then you will find yourself in the situation where faith becomes possible and where faith exists in the true sense of the word." - Dietrich Bonhoeffer, The Cost of Discipleship
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Originally posted by demi-conservative View PostAt best they can establish a quid pro quo on the national level, which is what diplomacy is. Nothing has established personal quid pro quo.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalex.../#3236c526bc32"If you believe, take the first step, it leads to Jesus Christ. If you don't believe, take the first step all the same, for you are bidden to take it. No one wants to know about your faith or unbelief, your orders are to perform the act of obedience on the spot. Then you will find yourself in the situation where faith becomes possible and where faith exists in the true sense of the word." - Dietrich Bonhoeffer, The Cost of Discipleship
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Originally posted by myth View PostI'll be happy to review the article in more detail
What a joke, I'm not dealing with this any more.Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.
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Originally posted by myth View PostLOL, you can't even read apparently. For one who's so poorly informed, you're pretty quick to make disparaging remarks. I'll link the article, again. Its the one with words like "Trump", "Moscow", "President", and "deal" in the title.Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.
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