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    As I'm watching these old farts battle back and forth over impeachment and "overwhelming evidence", I can't help but think some of these people need to step aside.

    Term limits, of course, would limit the kingdoms a representative or senator can build while in office, and maybe even curtail some of their amassing of wealth.

    The argument against, as I understand it, is that it takes the voters' rights away as to reelecting their own congressman/senator for as long as they wish.

    Your thoughts? Term limits apply to POTUS, why not congresspersons/senators?

    Note --- this is NOT a "I hate Trump" thread, and I'll limit the poll to just a binary yes or no, but feel free to elaborate as to why, or what you see as acceptable or desirable limits on term(s).

    And bacon.
    9
    Yes.
    88.89%
    8
    No.
    11.11%
    1
    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

  • #2
    I say yes. A constant supply of fresh blood would prevent the system from festering with corruption.
    Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
    But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
    Than a fool in the eyes of God


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    • #3
      2 terms for the Senate and 4 for the House.
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      • #4
        I think what they need is age limits. Both ways. Stop young idiots like AOC from being elected and get rid of old farts like Pelosi and Schumer.

        Min Age: 35, Max 65

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Sparko View Post
          I think what they need is age limits. Both ways. Stop young idiots like AOC from being elected and get rid of old farts like Pelosi and Schumer.

          Min Age: 35, Max 65
          Hmmmm

          Since the Constitution already specifies a minimum age, that would need an amendment to the Constitution, I'd think.

          No Person shall be a Representative who shall not have attained to the Age of twenty five Years, and been seven Years a Citizen of the United States, and who shall not, when elected, be an Inhabitant of that State in which he shall be chosen.
          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
            Hmmmm

            Since the Constitution already specifies a minimum age, that would need an amendment to the Constitution, I'd think.

            No Person shall be a Representative who shall not have attained to the Age of twenty five Years, and been seven Years a Citizen of the United States, and who shall not, when elected, be an Inhabitant of that State in which he shall be chosen.
            Interesting - the qualifications above relate to Representatives (the House), but the qualifications for Senate are tighter...

            No Person shall be a Senator who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty Years, and been nine Years a Citizen of the United States, and who shall not, when elected, be an Inhabitant of that State for which he shall be chosen.


            I think this speaks to the fact that the Senate is frequently referred to as "the upper chamber".
            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
              Hmmmm

              Since the Constitution already specifies a minimum age, that would need an amendment to the Constitution, I'd think.

              No Person shall be a Representative who shall not have attained to the Age of twenty five Years, and been seven Years a Citizen of the United States, and who shall not, when elected, be an Inhabitant of that State in which he shall be chosen.
              Yeah 25 is too young. Back when they wrote that people tended to grow up faster and had to become mature at younger ages. Today 25 year-olds are mostly still kids living in their mom's basement. Take AOC, 29 and doesn't have a clue how the real world works.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                Interesting - the qualifications above relate to Representatives (the House), but the qualifications for Senate are tighter...

                No Person shall be a Senator who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty Years, and been nine Years a Citizen of the United States, and who shall not, when elected, be an Inhabitant of that State for which he shall be chosen.


                I think this speaks to the fact that the Senate is frequently referred to as "the upper chamber".
                The Senate originally represented the states.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Teallaura View Post
                  The Senate originally represented the states.
                  They still do --- 100 Senators, 2 for each state. What am I missing?
                  The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Teallaura View Post
                    The Senate originally represented the states.


                    Source: The Heritage Guide to the Constitution: Senate



                    The formulation of the Senate was the result of the famous Connecticut Compromise at the Constitutional Convention, which provided for proportional representation of the states in the House and equal representation of the states in the Senate. Each state was to have two Senators, who would be elected by its state legislature, serve for staggered six-year terms, and vote per capita. By these devices, the Framers intended to protect the interests of the states as states.

                    Equal representation of all states in the Senate ensured that the ability of the smaller states to protect their interests would not be seriously impaired. Combined with the bicameral system created by the Constitution, it required that all legislation would have to be ratified by two independent power sources: Representatives of the people in the House and Representatives of the states (regardless of their respective size) in the Senate.

                    The mode of election impelled Senators to preserve the original federal design and to protect the interests not only of their own states, but, concomitantly, of the states as political and legal entities within the federal system. As Alexander Hamilton declared during the New York ratifying convention in 1788, "When you take a view of all the circumstances which have been recited, you will certainly see that the senators will constantly look up to the state governments with an eye of dependence and affection. If they are ambitious to continue in office, they will make every prudent arrangement for this purpose, and, whatever may be their private sentiments or politics, they will be convinced that the surest means of obtaining reelection will be a uniform attachment to the interests of their several states."



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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                      They still do --- 100 Senators, 2 for each state. What am I missing?
                      The 17th Amendment?


                      I'm always still in trouble again

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                      "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                        They still do --- 100 Senators, 2 for each state. What am I missing?
                        The Seventeenth Amendment - converting for state legislatures electing/appointing senators to direct election. They had represented the state governments; now they represent the people of the state. That weakens state power, one of the brakes on Federal power.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                          The 17th Amendment?

                          Still missing it --- how does that change the fact that the Senate "represents the states"? You're referring to the manner in which they were elected?

                          Break it down, bro - talk to me like I'm 3.
                          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Teallaura View Post
                            The Seventeenth Amendment - converting for state legislatures electing/appointing senators to direct election. They had represented the state governments; now they represent the people of the state. That weakens state power, one of the brakes on Federal power.
                            OK, gotcha!!!

                            Rogue - mind your own business - she splained what she meaned.
                            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Teallaura View Post
                              The Seventeenth Amendment - converting for state legislatures electing/appointing senators to direct election. They had represented the state governments; now they represent the people of the state. That weakens state power, one of the brakes on Federal power.
                              IIRC there were a number of states with notorious corruption issues surrounding the process of selecting Senators during the time which was a key reason for the call to take it out of the state legislature/Governor's hands.

                              I'm always still in trouble again

                              "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                              "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
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