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  • #16
    Originally posted by Starlight View Post
    One party consists of very close to a single identity-group: The Republicans. The other party is a diverse cross-section of all Americans: The Democrats.
    Not in the the 2020 democratic primaries, in the eyes of black folks. Nothing but white, and some of which have additional negative baggage they bring to the table (which is what I pointed out earlier). That was the point of the OP.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by seanD View Post
      Not in the the 2020 democratic primaries, in the eyes of black folks.
      Riiiiiigggghhhtttt, cos you have telepathic knowledge of what all black folks are thinking.

      And because the presence / absence of a black candidate in the Presidential primary is the only thing that counts.

      Nothing but white
      Except, of course, that 2 of the candidates in the top 10 of the Dem field were black (Cory Booker, Kamala Harris). As I said previously, get your basic facts right.
      "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
      "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
      "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Starlight View Post
        Riiiiiigggghhhtttt, cos you have telepathic knowledge of what all black folks are thinking.

        And because the presence / absence of a black candidate in the Presidential primary is the only thing that counts.

        Except, of course, that 2 of the candidates in the top 10 of the Dem field were black (Cory Booker, Kamala Harris). As I said previously, get your basic facts right.
        Once again, you're missing the point. It's not about telepathic knowledge. The author of the OP is making the point of racial identity-group politics, frequently pandered by the left to get black votes, being absent from "the top candidates" that still have a chance of being nominated. And I would think that the author would have a bit more knowledge about the sentiments of black voters than some dude from New Zealand. Btw, I'm mixed race who's lived in downtown Los Angeles for about two decades. So, ya, I also have a bit of insight into what democratic black folks think

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Starlight View Post
          Bernie and Bloomberg are Jewish.
          Pete is gay.
          Warren is female.
          So you don't buy into Warren's claim that she's Native American either I see.

          I'm always still in trouble again

          "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
          "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
          "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Tassman View Post
            The "old white man" currently in the WH certainly doesn't know how to take care of minorities.
            Meanwhile, in the real world, unemployment among blacks and Hispanics are at all time lows. Further, unemployment gaps between both blacks and whites as well as Hispanics and whites have reached all-time lows as well and incomes of black Americans have gone up by nearly $1200 per family adjusted for inflation (during the Obama Administration incomes of black Americans fell over $900 per family adjusted for inflation). It isn't just that the job market has been good for minorities under Trump -- it has been historically good.

            According to Bloomberg News last month:

            Over the past 12 months, wage gains for nonwhites have been not only substantially higher than those of whites, but also higher than economists’ estimates of inflation plus productivity. That implies that minority workers are getting a greater share of GDP.


            Maybe that explains why according to the latest Gallup poll Trump's approval rating among non-whites has jumped nearly 50% over the past year (from 14% to 20%). An Emerson poll has the approval rating among blacks being much higher -- at 34%.

            Likewise, it might explain why a Rasmussen poll taken this summer found that 33% think that things have gotten better for young blacks under Trump (I wonder how high that number would be if the MSM wasn't always trying to ignore or minimize all the good news) whereas during Obama's last term in office only 13% thought that life had improved since he was elected.

            I'm always still in trouble again

            "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
            "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
            "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Starlight View Post
              Riiiiiigggghhhtttt, cos you have telepathic knowledge of what all black folks are thinking.
              That's for the left to do. After all they claim that blacks all think the same way and those that don't are dismissed as not being "authentically" black and called Oreos (black on the outside, white on the inside), Uncle Toms and race traitors.

              I'm always still in trouble again

              "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
              "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
              "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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              • #22
                Originally posted by whag View Post
                Everyone please just shut up.
                Not at this time, thanks.
                The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Tassman View Post
                  The "old white man" currently in the WH certainly doesn't know how to take care of minorities.
                  Oddly enough, blacks are moving away from the Democrats toward Trump.
                  The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                    Meanwhile, in the real world, unemployment among blacks and Hispanics are at all time lows. Further, unemployment gaps between both blacks and whites as well as Hispanics and whites have reached all-time lows as well and incomes of black Americans have gone up by nearly $1200 per family adjusted for inflation (during the Obama Administration incomes of black Americans fell over $900 per family adjusted for inflation). It isn't just that the job market has been good for minorities under Trump -- it has been historically good.

                    According to Bloomberg News last month:

                    Over the past 12 months, wage gains for nonwhites have been not only substantially higher than those of whites, but also higher than economists’ estimates of inflation plus productivity. That implies that minority workers are getting a greater share of GDP.


                    Maybe that explains why according to the latest Gallup poll Trump's approval rating among non-whites has jumped nearly 50% over the past year (from 14% to 20%). An Emerson poll has the approval rating among blacks being much higher -- at 34%.

                    Likewise, it might explain why a Rasmussen poll taken this summer found that 33% think that things have gotten better for young blacks under Trump (I wonder how high that number would be if the MSM wasn't always trying to ignore or minimize all the good news) whereas during Obama's last term in office only 13% thought that life had improved since he was elected.
                    But that's OK, liberals, keep thinking that all the blacks are safe and secure and happy as clams on your plantation.
                    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                      But that's OK, liberals, keep thinking that all the blacks are safe and secure and happy as clams on your plantation.
                      The question remains if any of this translate into votes next November. They stayed loyal to Obama even though he was an unmitigated disaster for them. Time will tell.

                      I'm always still in trouble again

                      "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                      "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                      "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                        The question remains if any of this translate into votes next November. They stayed loyal to Obama even though he was an unmitigated disaster for them. Time will tell.
                        Depending on the liberal candidate, I'm hearing that blocks of blacks may simply stay home, if they don't show up to vote for Trump.

                        Democrats can't win without a huge majority of black support.
                        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                          Depending on the liberal candidate, I'm hearing that blocks of blacks may simply stay home, if they don't show up to vote for Trump.

                          Democrats can't win without a huge majority of black support.
                          Yeah, folks like Buttigieg have nearly zero support in the black community.




                          I think the idea of a lot of blacks staying home and not voting at all is far more plausible than Trump getting a substantial portion of the black vote.

                          I'm always still in trouble again

                          "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                          "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                          "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                            Yeah, folks like Buttigieg have nearly zero support in the black community.

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                            I think the idea of a lot of blacks staying home and not voting at all is far more plausible than Trump getting a substantial portion of the black vote.
                            And that would probably be enough to tip the scale.
                            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Tassman View Post
                              The "old white man" currently in the WH certainly doesn't know how to take care of minorities.
                              Because he is not a liberal. Duh.

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                              • #30
                                More on Democrats’ Diversity Blues

                                The top Democratic candidates will soon take the stage at the next debate, and oh boy, are party leaders squirming. Up until late last week, when Andrew Yang made the cutoff by a hair, all six of those making their pitch were white—#debatesowhite, as the hashtag called it. Worse yet, half of those Caucasians are old enough to be carrying Medicare cards. As Frank Bruni wrote in last week’s Sunday column, “for a party that celebrates diversity, pitches itself to underdogs and prides itself on being future-minded and youth-oriented, that’s a freaky, baffling turn of events.”

                                Some blamed the freaky turn on billionaire money crowding out the merely rich little guys, while others pointed a finger at the DNC for a dysfunctional qualifying system and a primary calendar privileging Iowa and New Hampshire, both largely white states. Also popular is the theory of “electability”—if voters’ top priority is nominating someone who can beat Donald Trump, white old-timers seem like the safest bet. But the facts behind #debatesowhite suggest that, despite the best efforts of progressives and the party establishment to hype 2020 candidates in terms of their race, gender, and LGBTQ status, the Democratic rank-and-file have limited use for identity politics.

                                Remember that the Dems started the year with a historically diverse field: two blacks, an Asian, a Hispanic, and an out gay man. In the following months, a sizable cluster of women joined the fray. Finally, Americans would see a field that “looked like America.” Yet 12 months later, all the nonwhite candidates—except Yang, who has explicitly disavowed identity politics—are either going or gone. Even Kamala Harris, whose Jamaican father and Indian mother made her intersectionally intersectional—black, Asian, female, and immigrant to boot—will not be standing in front of a podium.
                                The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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