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Is 5G dangerous?
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What I don't see is any plausibility to the claim. How would 5G radiation cause cancer? It is microwave energy, so all it could do is heat up tissue a little bit. But so will a pillow, your hand, a sauna, running, etc... There's no prior plausibility to the claim, so the evidence of danger would have to be significance, and there's hardly any threat here from the data.
On that I think we can proceed.
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Originally posted by Leonhard View PostWhat I don't see is any plausibility to the claim. How would 5G radiation cause cancer? It is microwave energy, so all it could do is heat up tissue a little bit. But so will a pillow, your hand, a sauna, running, etc... There's no prior plausibility to the claim, so the evidence of danger would have to be significance, and there's hardly any threat here from the data.
On that I think we can proceed.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by mikewhitney View PostI'm not sure why you are asking this. Is the science of planned 5G settled?"Any sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from trolling."
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Originally posted by Leonhard View PostWhat I don't see is any plausibility to the claim. How would 5G radiation cause cancer? It is microwave energy, so all it could do is heat up tissue a little bit. But so will a pillow, your hand, a sauna, running, etc... There's no prior plausibility to the claim, so the evidence of danger would have to be significance, and there's hardly any threat here from the data.
On that I think we can proceed.
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Originally posted by mikewhitney View PostI think the body can only handle 3GsThe first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by mikewhitney View PostAh. A scientist would see the need for scientific studies to find out what the biological effects are, not just assume that heating is the only mechanism. Science tries to takes us beyond what our intuition is and to find out if our intuition is correct or something more is happening.
If a group of people started claiming that, say, the increase in global average temperature observed over the last two centuries has been caused by a decline in Caribbean sailship piracy, we don't need to commission studies to prove this claim wrong in order to recognize that it is specious and untenable.
Similarly, 5G radiation is non-ionizing. The physics behind the interaction of photons and molecules is very well established and understood. We don't need to commission widescale studies to dismiss health concerns about 5G radiation as being specious and untenable."[Mathematics] is the revealer of every genuine truth, for it knows every hidden secret, and bears the key to every subtlety of letters; whoever, then, has the effrontery to pursue physics while neglecting mathematics should know from the start he will never make his entry through the portals of wisdom."
--Thomas Bradwardine, De Continuo (c. 1325)
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Originally posted by Boxing Pythagoras View PostThe physics behind the interaction of photons and molecules is very well established and understood. We don't need to commission widescale studies to dismiss health concerns about 5G radiation as being specious and untenable."Any sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from trolling."
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Originally posted by mikewhitney View PostAh. A scientist would see the need for scientific studies to find out what the biological effects are, not just assume that heating is the only mechanism. Science tries to takes us beyond what our intuition is and to find out if our intuition is correct or something more is happening.
If anyone is willing to do research like that they should be allowed to, however, until we have clear evidence that it is dangerous it is perfectly valid to presume that there is no danger, based on current theories showing that microwave radiation only causes heating.
And as it stands there's simply no plausible mechanism by which microwave radiation can cause changes to DNA.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostI started the thread because I was curious, and 5G seems to be a very hot topic....>>> Witty remark or snarky quote of another poster goes here <<<...
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This video is interesting by Martin Pall,PhD, concerning harm from EMF
5 Most Critical Areas of Harm (Part 2)with Martin Pall, PhD
https://the5gsummit.com/expert/martin-pall-2/
This link is only available today (Saturday, june 6)
In part, he discusses EMF calcium gates, VGCCs. Earlier in the video he mentions of a Chinese study on rats exposed to pulsed EMF in their earlier years who then had characteristics of alzheimers later, without being exposed to such pulses, after the initial test. The design of 5G is that these short pulses will be characteristic and essential to 5G
Calicium Gates VGCCs.jpg
I'm not sure yet where this Chinese study can be found. This video acts more as an introduction to the science.
If the smaller copy of the VGCC diagram appears (within a larger white area), I was unable to delete that from the post after adding the better copy. Oh well.Attached FilesLast edited by mikewhitney; 06-06-2020, 01:07 PM.
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