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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill the Cat View Post
    Because you are obviously ignorant on how our legal system works. When the Constitution is silent on a matter, it can not be said to be illegal or unconstitutional until the Judicial Branch rules it so.



    And the ones I listed seceded via bloodshed.
    I cited the International Law and legal position. It did not have to be in a treaty nor whether the judicial branch says it is. In fact the judicial branch of the government has no say in international law. Being achieved by bloodshed only translates to achieved by bloodshed and does not make it legal by international law.

    International Law is only binding due to treaties and standards. Again, irrelevant to those nations I listed.
    By the Oxford reference I cited this is absolutely false. You have cited nothing, but opinion.

    As cited the United States forced the secession of Panama from Colombia by the threat of force of arms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shunyadragon View Post
    I cited the International Law and legal position.
    International Law is only binding if the nations agree to it.

    It did not have to be in a treaty nor whether the judicial branch says it is. In fact the judicial branch of the government has no say in international law. Being achieved by bloodshed only translates to achieved by bloodshed and does not make it legal by international law.
    And International Law does not trump a sovereign nation's judiciary unless it lets them. That's a fact you lefties just don't get.


    By the Oxford reference I cited this is absolutely false.
    The "Oxford reference" states pretty bluntly… "Second, even though secession is not “prohibited,” international law disfavors it and creates a presumption against its effectiveness and in favor of the territorial integrity of the parent state."


    Disfavors is not "illegal", Frank.


    You have cited nothing, but opinion.
    And your cite doesn't even support your "secession is illegal" nonsense.

    As cited the United States forced the secession of Panama from Colombia by the threat of force of arms.
    No they didn't. The Panamanians were goaded into it by an French and American OWNED COMPANY, not the US. Reading is fundamental.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill the Cat View Post
    International Law is only binding if the nations agree to it.



    And International Law does not trump a sovereign nation's judiciary unless it lets them. That's a fact you lefties just don't get.




    The "Oxford reference" states pretty bluntly… "Second, even though secession is not “prohibited,” international law disfavors it and creates a presumption against its effectiveness and in favor of the territorial integrity of the parent state."


    Disfavors is not "illegal", Frank.




    And your cite doesn't even support your "secession is illegal" nonsense.



    No they didn't. The Panamanians were goaded into it by an French and American OWNED COMPANY, not the US. Reading is fundamental.
    The warship was a US warship. You have not responded to the sources cited, nor have you cited anything but your opinion.

    Not a coherent response. Keep flying your Confederate flag with pride.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shunyadragon View Post
    The warship was a US warship. You have not responded to the sources cited, nor have you cited anything but your opinion.
    I cited a History Professor from UVA and YOUR OWN SOURCE!!! You incompetent boob!

    Not a coherent response. Keep flying your Confederate flag with pride.
    What part of "my people fought for the Union" are you failing to translate from my English into your moron?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill the Cat View Post
    I cited a History Professor from UVA and YOUR OWN SOURCE!!! You incompetent boob
    You are nit picking words to justify your agenda. You incompetent boob!




    What part of "my people fought for the Union" are you failing to translate from my English into your moron?
    Your words speak for your sentiments not your ancestors. Keep flying your Confederate flag with pride.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shunyadragon View Post
    You are nit picking words to justify your agenda. You incompetent boob!
    I am not nit picking anything. I cited them without comment.






    Your words speak for your sentiments not your ancestors. Keep flying your Confederate flag with pride.
    My "sentiments" have nothing to do with the Confederate flag, you idiot. I think flying the flag is stupid. But hey... don't let reality bother you on this either. Stay consistently ignorant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill the Cat View Post
    I am not nit picking anything. I cited them without comment.








    My "sentiments" have nothing to do with the Confederate flag, you idiot. I think flying the flag is stupid. But hey... don't let reality bother you on this either. Stay consistently ignorant.

    Your statements clearly and specifically reflect your sentiments in this whole thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shunyadragon View Post
    Your statements clearly and specifically reflect your sentiments in this whole thread.
    Only to Dementia patients.


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    Quote Originally Posted by shunyadragon View Post
    Your statements clearly and specifically reflect your sentiments in this whole thread.
    'I don't need to read what you said, I know what you're thinking.'

    It's not a conversation when you accuse people of things they just denied, shunya. You got shown up, so you're attacking BTC. Really obvious deflection move.
    ...>>> Witty remark or snarky quote of another poster goes here <<<...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill the Cat View Post
    Only to Dementia patients.
    Your posts are in plan understandable English, though dementia may be an issue on your part.
    Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
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    But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:

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    Frank

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