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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    Conservatives like to call things what they actually are.
    Liberals like to lie and call things what they are not -- pro-abortion becomes "pro choice", abortion becomes "selective termination", unborn baby becomes "just tissue".... Liberals often have to be totally dishonest about what things actually are to try to sound less nutty or evil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    Conservatives like to call things what they actually are.

    Is that like how conservatives call themselves "pro-life" when they are pro-war and pro-gun?

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    George Orwell warned us about attempts to control our ability to express ourselves.
    Indeed.


    "Every line of serious work I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell, Why I Write


    Worth bearing in mind democratic socialism is a very leftist liberal position.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlight View Post

    Is that like how conservatives call themselves "pro-life" when they are pro-war and pro-gun?

    Is that how liberals call themselves "climate change advocates" when they are pro-automobiles?

    That was about as retarded a statement. Actually, considering California has some of the worse emissions violations, maybe even less.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlight View Post

    Is that like how conservatives call themselves "pro-life" when they are pro-war and pro-gun?
    I am neither pro-war or pro-gun.

    Please try again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlight View Post
    I am amused by the notion that saying the magic words "Islamic Terrorism" is supposed to accomplish anything at all.

    Conservatives seem to have convinced themselves it's almost a magic spell and if you say the incantation then world's problems are magically solved. It's a really bizarre idea/concern on their part. Perhaps because they lack the intelligence and policies to seriously address the issues, all they can do is focus on the words and finger point when their magic words aren't uttered enough?
    I disagree, it is about recognizing and defining the problem.

    G W Bush did push through a controversial agenda to combat terrorism, such as with the Patriot Act. The one area which there was disagreement (among conservatives) had to do with how Islamic terrorism was defined. Was the terror threat inherent in Islam itself, or was it a product of Islamic fundamentalism, or a problem inherent in fundamentalism itself? Three approaches which lead to distinct policies.

    And yes, I did not address Obama's approaches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlight View Post

    "Every line of serious work I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell, Why I Write


    Worth bearing in mind democratic socialism is a very leftist liberal position.
    So basically he was writing a "how to" manual for Democratic Socialism. Cool. The left have followed his instructions very well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    So basically he was writing a "how to" manual for Democratic Socialism. Cool. The left have followed his instructions very well.
    Is that what you get out of reading 1984 or Animal Farm, a "how to" manual for democratic socialism?

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    Quote Originally Posted by simplicio View Post
    Is that what you get out of reading 1984 or Animal Farm, a "how to" manual for democratic socialism?
    Seems like the left has used it that way, because they are masters at double-speak and trying to limit the freedom of speech.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    Seems like the left has used it that way, because they are masters at double-speak and trying to limit the freedom of speech.
    Oh. So the novels were not how to manuals for democratic socialism, its just that the dens have the role of totalitarians.

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