Secret FISA court issues highly unusual public rebuke of FBI for mistakes

[Cow Poke]

Secret FISA court issues highly unusual public rebuke of FBI for mistakes

WASHINGTON — The secret court that approves orders to conduct surveillance on suspected foreign terrorists or spies issued a highly unusual public rebuke of the FBI on Tuesday, ordering the agency to say how it intends to correct the errors revealed last week by the Justice Department inspector general.

Rosemary Collyer, presiding judge on the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance (FISA) court, said the inspector general's report "calls into question whether information contained in other FBI applications is reliable." She ordered the FBI to file a report by Jan. 10 on how it intends to remedy those mistakes.

In his testimony to the Senate Judiciary Committee last week, Inspector General Michael Horowitz expressed misgivings about the FBI's errors and omissions in its requests for judicial approval to conduct surveillance on Trump campaign aide Carter Page.

"We are deeply concerned that so many basic and fundamental errors were made by three separate, hand-picked investigative teams on one of the most sensitive FBI investigations after the matter had been briefed to the highest levels within the FBI," Horowitz said.

[NorrinRadd]

Could there be some CYA in there? As I understand it, FISA warrants get approved about 98% of the time, which some consider to be excessively rubber-stampy. This fiasco has libertarians and other privacy-minded people wanting to thoroughly revamp the FISA system, if not dump it totally.

[seanD]

Could there be some CYA in there? As I understand it, FISA warrants get approved about 98% of the time, which some consider to be excessively rubber-stampy. This fiasco has libertarians and other privacy-minded people wanting to thoroughly revamp the FISA system, if not dump it totally.

Dump it. I'll take my chances with the terrorist boogiemen around every corner out to get us.

[NorrinRadd]

Could there be some CYA in there? As I understand it, FISA warrants get approved about 98% of the time, which some consider to be excessively rubber-stampy. This fiasco has libertarians and other privacy-minded people wanting to thoroughly revamp the FISA system, if not dump it totally.

I didn't catch the source, but according to a chart on Laura Ingraham's show tonight, in 2018 only 2 of well over 1000 FISA applications were not approved. That's well over 99%.

[Sparko]

I think it is very telling that they are calling them "errors" - it was outright fraud and lies. It was deliberate. No error.

[Cow Poke]

I think it is very telling that they are calling them "errors" - it was outright fraud and lies. It was deliberate. No error.

As has been pointed out, every one of the "errors" was damaging to Trump - ZERO errors in his favor.

[rogue06]

FISA Court rebukes FBI

Rosemary Collyer, the presiding judge of the secret FISA court that granted the FBI surveillance warrants on Trump's former campaign aide Carter Page, has issued an unprecedented public rebuke of the FBI for their serial abuses in the surveillance of him. She declared that the bureau deliberately misled the court when it sought permission to wiretap Page.

Collyer said the FBI's handling of the case "was antithetical to the heightened duty of candor" required by the law that established the FISA court and that their actions "calls into question whether information contained in other FBI applications is reliable."

"The frequency with which representations made by FBI personnel turned out to be unsupported or contradicted by information in their possession, and with which they withheld information detrimental to their case, calls into question whether information contained in other FBI applications is reliable," Collyer wrote in her 4 page statement.

In her assessment the derelictions in the Page surveillance warrants were so serious, that the FISA court can no longer be confident that any warrant applications the FBI has submitted to them are accurate and complete, that even if their assertions are true that they aren't misleading because of the omission of relevant information.

As a result Collyer has called for major reforms of the FBI and ordered them to provide a written explanation by January 10th how it intends to fix the problem.

Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Lindsay Graham (R-SC) said that he was "very pleased to see the FISA court condemn the FISA warrant application and process against Carter Page" and said that he hopes that Republicans and Democrats can unite in order "to make changes to better protect civil liberties while maintaining our ability to monitor foreign surveillance directed against our economic and national security interests."

Personally, I think that this is a far bigger story than the impeachment circus. If you say that you don't care about the intentional abuses which included providing deliberately doctored documents to the court because it was a Trumper they were after then you really know nothing whatsoever about justice, nor care a whit about it. You are a fraud. A fake. A pretender.

That the FBI would willingly lie and doctor documents in order to go after someone ought to send a chill down your spine for if it can happen to those you dislike it can also happen to those you like -- and can even happen to you.

• NBC: Secret FISA court issues highly unusual public rebuke of FBI for mistakes
  
• The Hill: FISA court's rebuke of the FBI: It broke or ignored the rules and our rights
  
• USA Today: Judge says the FBI misled FISA court when seeking permission to wiretap a former Trump campaign aide

[Sparko]

Finally someone calls them out for lying and deliberately misleading the court instead of saying they were "errors."

[Cow Poke]

yeah, like here.

On Tweb... Secret FISA court issues highly unusual public rebuke of FBI for mistakes

Or is this different?

[rogue06]

Finally someone calls them out for lying and deliberately misleading the court instead of saying they were "errors."

When you have 17 "errors" committed by crack hand-picked investigators that all, without exception, go the same way (against Trump), that is like flipping a coin 17 times in a row and it landing heads every time. Given a fair coin the odds of that are 1 in 131,072.

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And you don't "accidentally" or "mistakenly" doctor documents like they did.

[rogue06]

yeah, like here.

On Tweb... Secret FISA court issues highly unusual public rebuke of FBI for mistakes

Or is this different?

Sorry. Missed that. We can combine the threads.

[Cow Poke]

“As a director sitting on top of an organization of 38,000 people, you can’t run an investigation that’s 7 layers below you.” - Comey

[Sparko]

“As a director sitting on top of an organization of 38,000 people, you can’t run an investigation that’s 7 layers below you.” - Comey

Yeah. This was at the very top of the FBI's todo list. He dang well should have been on top of it, and was.

[rogue06]

Personally, I think that this is a far bigger story than the impeachment circus. If you say that you don't care about the intentional abuses which included providing deliberately doctored documents to the court because it was a Trumper they were after then you really know nothing whatsoever about justice, nor care a whit about it. You are a fraud. A fake. A pretender.

That the FBI would willingly lie and doctor documents in order to go after someone ought to send a chill down your spine for if it can happen to those you dislike it can also happen to those you like -- and can even happen to you.

I'm still taken aback at the silence about this coming from the left. Has their TDS gotten to the point that they just don't care what happens just as long as it is used to attack Trump? I mean they've already demonstrated that they're gleefully willing to scrap over 200 years of jurisprudence and allow third and fourth hand "testimony" from hearsay gossips.

[Cow Poke]

I'm still taken aback at the silence about this coming from the left. Has their TDS gotten to the point that they just don't care what happens just as long as it is used to attack Trump? I mean they've already demonstrated that they're gleefully willing to scrap over 200 years of jurisprudence and allow third and fourth hand "testimony" from hearsay gossips.

I'm sure they see it as an attack on a time honored institution, blah blah blah....