Christianity Today Op Ed

[lilpixieofterror]

Quote me were I said or implied anyone, including breitbart, said 'every last one of them is violent' in reference to antifa?

Than why were you giving links to the ADL and acting as though I believe they are all violent or mostly violent? I have no problem admitting that not all parts of Antifa, are violent. Can you acknowledge that not everyone on the right or who opposes them, are all violent?

[oxmixmudd]

All there is to do on this is laugh pix. You clearly have no clue. But you can have the last insult. After all, it's what you do

[lilpixieofterror]

All there is to do on this is laugh pix. You clearly have no clue. But you can have the last insult. After all, it's what you do

[oxmixmudd]

Than why were you giving links to the ADL and acting as though I believe they are all violent or mostly violent? I have no problem admitting that not all parts of Antifa, are violent. Can you acknowledge that not everyone on the right or who opposes them, are all violent?

Acting as if? This entire line of discussion is about how violent Antifa is and at one point you even called into question whether or not jaecp was LYING about his experience with them.


and you are indeed included in the characterization of Antifa as violent:

Sorry Jim, but there is video, photo, and eyewitness evidence showing Antifa members engaging in violent behavior ...

as was MM ...

It's not for nothing that they've been deemed a terrorist organization by our government.

And that is why I am quoting the ADL and trying to offer a more balanced look at what they are that could include jaecp's experience with them.

[Mountain Man]

Pix, my worst day does not exceed your normal one in terms of the degrading, defamatory comments that flow so freely from you.

Because your smug, passive aggressive hypocrisy doesn't count, am I right?

[oxmixmudd]

Your smug, passive aggressive hypocrisy doesn't count, am I right?

nope

[One Bad Pig]

I didn't post anything to imply that the picture was a defense of chattel slavery -- that was your bit.

It's enough for me that the picture proclaims Confederate traitors (who fought for the preservation of chattel slavery, if you want to mention it) as "heroes" -- not just the generals but the grey uniforms writ large.

--Sam

Thanks for proving my point.

[One Bad Pig]

I haven't, actually and, for what it's worth, what few I have were on people that deserved it. People who are cruel by default. I'm not just going to suck it up like I did here, for a decade, being attacked as passive aggressive for not returning insults

Oh, they deserved it. That makes it all better!

Also, dude, If that comment was you trying to be nice then oof.

Did I say I was trying to be nice? False dichotomy ftw!

You bent over backwards for someone who is crass and cruel as their default stance. I've been rude to, what, lpot and mm? Cry me a river. It's been standard here for a decade that Conservstive Christians can be jackasses but the second anyone else is rude back you and every other person that turns a blind eye to your brethrens abhorrent behavior comes out of the woodwork.

Hell, • Edited by a Moderator • here is accusing me of being violent with no basis whatsoever. How is a discussion even possible here?

[lilpixieofterror]

Acting as if? This entire line of discussion is about how violent Antifa is and at one point you even called into question whether or not jaecp was LYING about his experience with them.




and you are indeed included in the characterization of Antifa as violent:





as was MM ...




And that is why I am quoting the ADL and trying to offer a more balanced look at what they are that could include jaecp's experience with them.

[oxmixmudd]

Admitting what? You are the one accusing me of lying. And these posts make it clear I was not. You went off half-cocked thinking I'd said something that didn't exist anywhere in my posts, implied or direct. Yet - instead of apologizing for your mistake - you are still trying to cast the blame on me.

And I think that about sums it up pix.

[lilpixieofterror]

Admitting what? You are the one accusing me of lying. And these posts make it clear I was not. You went off half-cocked thinking I'd said something that didn't exist anywhere in my posts, implied or direct. Yet - instead of apologizing for your mistake - you are still trying to cast the blame on me.

And I think that about sums it up pix.

Which had lead to:

No pix, MM. You are summarily ignoring his experience as it is expressed here without looking into his claims. Without doing some legwork to find out if he has a valid point. That was my point in asking if it ever occurred to you that your biased sources might be misleading you.

That question should be being asked, and you should be trying to determine its answer. Both of you are thinking in very tribal, irrational ways on this. Instead we should be looking at what he knows and if that is representative ofca larger misrepresentation of this group.

[Mountain Man]

No pix, MM. You are summarily ignoring his experience as it is expressed here without looking into his claims.

I'm not ignoring it, but the fact is, our own government has called Antifa a terrorist organization as its members have openly engaged in violent protests across the country. This has been well documented by a number of credible news organizations. Now maybe Jaecp's Portland chapter is the exception, but his anecdotes don't change the general facts.

He also made a curious statement in this thread, claiming that he doesn't dish out insults, but that when he does, it's only because the person in question "deserved it". It makes you wonder if he carries that same attitude with him into the streets, telling himself, "We're a peaceful bunch, but when my Antifa buddies beat someone to the ground, it's only because he deserved it!"

[One Bad Pig]

I'm not ignoring it, but the fact is, our own government has called Antifa a terrorist organization as its members have openly engaged in violent protests across the country. This has been well documented by a number of credible news organizations. Now maybe Jaecp's Portland chapter is the exception, but his anecdotes don't change the general facts.

I'm going to go with probably not

[Mountain Man]

I'm going to go with probably not

Well, yeah, but those people probably deserved it.

[Sparko]

Read the actual article, Sparko, don't stop at unproven

Don't ignore the dozens of other incidents of Antifa violence while trying to nitpick one.

Defending people is something I have never seen Antifa do (other than themselves when people push back). They just attack. Maybe your antifa are different than what we see in the news, but I doubt it.