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Originally posted by Tassman View PostIt’s the duly elected House of Representatives, whether you like it or not, and it has impeached the president.
2) I'm totally fine with the fact that the partisan hacks impeached Trump.
No. It was the intention of the FF that the Senate run an impeachment trial impartially and fairly – as reflected in the oath the Senators are Constitutionally bound to swear: “I solemnly swear (or affirm) that in all things appertaining to the trial of [in this case, Donald J. Trump] now pending, I will do impartial justice according to the Constitution and laws, so help me God.”The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Jaecp View PostLOL
Dude,
You might have forgotten me, but I haven't forgotten you. I'll refer you to my previous post about how European media doesn't coddle him like ours does. That is the truth and it remains my answer. Which, incidentally, you never actually directly addressed ;P you just pretended like I'd agreed with you and wrote something wacky
You said : "Plus, plenty of the TWeb atheists aren't American and their news doesn't give Trump cover like our news media does"
I haven't seen much, if any, positive coverage of Trump, but rather a fair bit of biased and loaded headlines with articles whose content doesn't support the claim the headline makes. IOW, trash journalism, opinion presented as objective reporting, and all anti-Trump.
Originally posted by MaxVelAll the non-American news coverage I have seen is unrelentingly anti-Trump, including persistent use of skewed language ('Trump rages' etc) in headlines, and stretching the truth if not breaking it, in content. Nothing positive is said about Trump or anything he does.
Originally posted by JaecpSeems about right
Trump rages a lot. American media cuts around his insanity. Europeans are calling it like it is because they don't have a vested interest like our news media does. He's a bad leader and easily our most financially corrupt in a century
The sentence in bold either means that you agree that non-American media coverage of Trump is overwhelmingly negative; or that you agree that propaganda and lies are the 'right' way to report on Trump. Since I do remember you, and have seen some of your recent posts here, I naturally took you to mean the latter. Further, given my post above, you couldn't possibly think that I agree that "Europeans {their media} are calling it like it is..." as I had pointed out the anti-Trump bias and distortions of fact all too common in supposed 'news reports'.
Knowing that you clearly see yourself as both morally and intellectually superior to posters here who don't share your political hobbyhorses, it's obvious that you wouldn't be concerned about lies and propaganda being presented as truth if it attacks Trump and supports your fan-boy admiration of Democrats.
Correct, the European media doesn't 'coddle' Trump, they regularly slant their articles against him and never miss a chance to ridicule and cast him in the worst possible light, even if that means stretching the truth.
Either you care about the truth, and want people to reject Trump for good reasons, in which case you would be against media falsehoods and lies about Trump**; or you care about 'winning', in which case anything is fair if it makes people dislike or hate Trump. Which is it?
Me, I want to know the truth, which is why I find it suspicious that I see so much gutter 'journalism' directed against Trump.
** If he's really as bad as you say, then cheap clickbait headlines and less than factual articles are harmful - they make people less likely to believe the truth about Trump....>>> Witty remark or snarky quote of another poster goes here <<<...
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ItOriginally posted by Jaecp View PostI mean, yeah
Anyone that's not a Republican has seen through Trump significantly longer than Democratic leadership has. Plus, plenty of the TWeb atheists aren't American and their news doesn't give Trump cover like our news media doesSome may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostIt
Our media gives Trump cover? What?
If not, you’re giving Trump ‘cover’."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostThe concept that the American media coddles Trump is jaw-droppingly moronic.Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostIt
Our media gives Trump cover? What?
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Max, again,
Trump getting more negative press overseas has to do with the media describing him accurately. I dunno what else you expect me to say.
Like, it's standard practice for you guys to just... Blatantly "misinterpret" what liberals say on this website.
I used to get some enjoyment out of slowly explaining why people were wrong, but I don't got time for that when I know you know the actual thing I said
So, Max and anyone else, be honest or I'm not going to respond to your carefully crafted nonsense unless it's a good faith arguments and all that,
Cool? Cool!
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Originally posted by Jaecp View PostMax, again,
Trump getting more negative press overseas has to do with the media describing him accurately. I dunno what else you expect me to say.
Like, it's standard practice for you guys to just... Blatantly "misinterpret" what liberals say on this website.
I used to get some enjoyment out of slowly explaining why people were wrong, but I don't got time for that when I know you know the actual thing I said
So, Max and anyone else, be honest or I'm not going to respond to your carefully crafted nonsense unless it's a good faith arguments and all that,
Cool? Cool!
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Originally posted by Jaecp View PostYeah, they do. Why do you think Maxvel is interpreting European media being meaner? It's not because they're making stuff upz but because they're not invested in making Trump look like he's a functioning human being
Honestly, I don't know where you're finding positive coverage of Trump in mainstream news. The only difference with international coverage is that there's not the equivalent of Breitbart or FOX News to provide some balance.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by seanD View PostYou'll respond lol. And, ya, thinking the US media is covering for Trump, other than Fox News (although even some commentators on Fox have been critical), is insane, and I think even takes TDS into a whole other reality.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
Honestly, I don't know where you're finding positive coverage of Trump in mainstream news. The only difference with international coverage is that there's not the equivalent of Breitbart or FOX News to provide some balance.My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostBreitbart and Fox are not 'balance', they are mostly pro-Trump propaganda. People that get the majority of their information from them are, when it comes to Donald Trump, in a little bubble where the real world is excluded and they can hear what makes the happy.
I highly doubt we'll even see MSNBC or CNN go that far.
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostBreitbart and Fox are not 'balance', they are mostly pro-Trump propaganda. People that get the majority of their information from them are, when it comes to Donald Trump, in a little bubble where the real world is excluded and they can hear what makes the happy.
That was easy. Come back when you got more than a smear."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostThe concept that the American media coddles Trump is jaw-droppingly moronic. Analysis repeatedly shows that over 90% of their coverage is negative and they only give grudgingly minimal coverage for how well the economy is doing, the record setting low unemployment rates among minorities, the new trade deals he has worked out or a whole slew of things that they would spotlighting if a Democrat was president.
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