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  • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
    Nobody said it was criminal but nevertheless it was one of the biggest fines ever handed out for campaign violations so it was hardly some minor thing as you try so hard to present it as.
    Nowhere near as big as the $2 million to settle Trump's misuse of the Trump Foundation charity to benefit his 2016 presidential campaign.

    As for Cohen, he willingly pled guilty to whatever Mueller told him to in order to receive leniency. Too bad that there was no evidence (something that the left increasingly disparages) to support it.
    So, you are suggesting that Cohen was not guilty of felony campaign finance violations and should not be in jail.
    “He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.

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    • Originally posted by Tassman View Post
      Is this crap REALLY what the Trump clones are reduced to
      Sense of humor in a goofy political forum? The point was, anyone can interpret a nazi salute from a dumb photo.

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      • Originally posted by DivineOb View Post
        What is your explanation for why hate crimes and antisemitic attacks are up?
        This deserves a thread of its own, posted it here in civics
        Last edited by simplicio; 01-06-2020, 01:54 AM.

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        • Originally posted by seanD View Post
          Sense of humor in a goofy political forum? The point was, anyone can interpret a nazi salute from a dumb photo.
          While that may be true, the problem is that actual Nazi salutes are trending among a sub group of those that support Donald Trump.
          My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

          If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

          This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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          • Originally posted by DivineOb View Post
            What is your explanation for why hate crimes and antisemitic attacks are up?
            Polarization would be a start and how hate crimes are counted would be second.
            "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
            GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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            • Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
              While that may be true, the problem is that actual Nazi salutes are trending among a sub group of those that support Donald Trump.
              Beyond your smear campaign, what is your point?
              "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
              GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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              • Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View Post
                Beyond your smear campaign, what is your point?
                Any time any leader creates an environment where people feel inspired to give him the Nazi salute, it is a big deal.
                My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

                If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

                This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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                • Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View Post
                  Polarization would be a start and how hate crimes are counted would be second.
                  So it's just made up ... not real?
                  My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

                  If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

                  This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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                  • Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
                    Any time any leader creates an environment where people feel inspired to give him the Nazi salute, it is a big deal.
                    Hate to break it to you, but people have been giving Nazi salutes, for decades, under lots of presidents. Are you declaring they were secret Nazi’s too? Was Regan, Bush 1, or Bush 2, really inspiring Nazi’s too?

                    Like I said, it’s a smear. You should know better or has your TDS rotted the reason centers of your brain?
                    Last edited by lilpixieofterror; 01-06-2020, 09:57 AM.
                    "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
                    GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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                    • Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
                      So it's just made up ... not real?


                      Typical TDS suffering Jim, not bothering to ask questions before jumping to conclusions.
                      "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
                      GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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                      • Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View Post
                        ... people have been giving Nazi salutes, for decades, under lots of presidents. Are you declaring they were secret Nazi’s too? Was Regan, Bush 1, or Bush 2, really inspiring Nazi’s too?
                        Leaders that attracts Nazi's to themselves have a problem. Leaders that don't dissociate themselves or do not find such supporters disturbing have an even bigger problem.

                        Reagan, Bush 1 and Bush 2 also tended to appeal to the best in us, not the worst.

                        Do you have evidence of anything even remotely approaching the magnitude of the effect as it relates to Trump seen with Reagan, Bush 1 or Bush 2?
                        My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

                        If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

                        This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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                        • Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
                          Leaders that attracts Nazi's to themselves have a problem. Leaders that don't dissociate themselves or do not find such supporters disturbing have an even bigger problem.

                          Reagan, Bush 1 and Bush 2 also tended to appeal to the best in us, not the worst.

                          Do you have evidence of anything even remotely approaching the magnitude of the effect as it relates to Trump seen with Reagan, Bush 1 or Bush 2?
                          Trump has said he doesn’t approve of Nazi’s, so go spread your smear campaign somewhere else.
                          "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
                          GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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                          • Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
                            Any time any leader creates an environment where people feel inspired to give him the Nazi salute, it is a big deal.
                            And fails to forcefully, repeatedly, and unambiguously condemn such behavior. It would really help if Trump said the opposite of "good people on both sides" when something like this happens. "Hate has no place in America. I condemn this cowardly act in the strongest possible terms. America is the land of opportunity to all and its justice protects all colors and religions." It even fits in a tweet (probably).

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                            • Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View Post
                              Trump has said he doesn’t approve of Nazi’s, so go spread your smear campaign somewhere else.
                              But, until he takes out their leader with a drone, he's still pro-Nazi.
                              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                              • Originally posted by DivineOb View Post
                                And fails to forcefully, repeatedly, and unambiguously condemn such behavior. It would really help if Trump said the opposite of "good people on both sides" when something like this happens. "Hate has no place in America. I condemn this cowardly act in the strongest possible terms. America is the land of opportunity to all and its justice protects all colors and religions." It even fits in a tweet (probably).
                                Read the whole quote instead of the media version of it. There was lots going on there, self declared Nazi’s were not the only people present.
                                "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
                                GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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