As my husband says, the whole impeachment deal is a joke. Many in the Dem party want to get rid of Trump because he threatens their sacred cows-- Roe v Wade and special privileges for LGBT's.
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Originally posted by Sam View PostThings that have been said many times for several months:
1) Numerous federal officials have testified that the resources were being withheld as part of an extortive quid pro quo and their testimony is backed by contemporaneous documentary evidence.
2) Impeachment isn't a criminal trial and the reasonable doubt standard is neither necessary by law or historical precedent.
3) There is evidence that Ukrainian officials knew the nature of the quid pro quo and knew it was corrupt, yet were preparing to execute Trump's demand prior to the whistleblower complaint was made public.
4) The release of aid came too late in the fiscal year for full disbursement: Congress had to pass an additional law to get the rest of the aid money disbursed.
Given all of that and the aforementioned explanation for why Zelensky, still beholden to Trump's good graces, might be hesitant to stick a knife in him, the frequent talking points about "no direct evidence" and "no victim" continue to ring hollow.
--Sam
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Originally posted by Sherman View PostAs my husband says, the whole impeachment deal is a joke. Many in the Dem party want to get rid of Trump because he threatens their sacred cows-- Roe v Wade and special privileges for LGBT's.
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Originally posted by seanD View PostI think it's deeper than that. Personally, I think it's a smokes screen to impede any investigation of Obama/Biden's shady doings in Ukraine. Giuliani agrees. However, I've heard even more farfetched conspiracies from the left being offered. That this is a ploy by Pelosi to get Warren and Sanders bogged down in a senate trial in order to get them out of the election race in favor of Biden.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Sherman View PostAs my husband says, the whole impeachment deal is a joke. Many in the Dem party want to get rid of Trump because he threatens their sacred cows-- Roe v Wade and special privileges for LGBT's.“He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostIn short, the very items, i.e. Roe v Wade and equal rights for LGBT's, for which the religious right have overlooked Trump's gross sexual immorality
a) he wasn't running for a religious position
2) there appear to be no allegations that that conduct is continuing "in office"
and federal criminal offenses to obtain.
HEY, I just had an idea! Why didn't they consult YOU? Trump would probably already be booted out of the White House!The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostIn short, the very items, i.e. Roe v Wade and equal rights for LGBT's, for which the religious right have overlooked Trump's gross sexual immorality and federal criminal offenses to obtain.
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Originally posted by Sherman View PostThe Clinton's were just as grossly immoral. It's which snake is worse. I don't like Trump, but Hillary was worse.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post.
a) he wasn't running for a religious position
2) there appear to be no allegations that that conduct is continuing "in office"
Leopards/spots…
that's what this impeachment sham is all about, and if the Democrats are so confident they have the goods on Trump....
HEY, I just had an idea! Why didn't they consult YOU? Trump would probably already be booted out of the White House!“He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostI think that's just a falsehood you guilt ridden Trumpsters like to tell yourselves. You may have been told Hillary is corrupt, we know Trump is as corrupt as they come, and he does it right in front of your faces, and laughs!
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2...rvor-for-trump“He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostSo, it’s OK for the religious right to have a self-proclaimed sexual aggressor and adulterer as president.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostSome day, I'd love to take your brain apart and see why it so frequently malfunctions so badly.
I'd love to see a deep dive on why the Evangelical movement frequently malfunctions so badly, myself.
--Sam"I wonder about the trees. / Why do we wish to bear / Forever the noise of these / More than another noise / So close to our dwelling place?" — Robert Frost, "The Sound of Trees"
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Originally posted by Sam View PostTrump has been credibly accused of sexual harassment or assault by over 20 women.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostWhile in office?
"An overseer, then, must be above reproach, the husband of one wife [while in office], temperate, prudent, respectable, hospitable, able to teach ..."
Y'all voted for the guy knowing that he was a serial adulterer credibly accused of sexual assault or harassment by a score of women. You can leave that "while in office?" defense back in 2019 and be better for it.
--Sam"I wonder about the trees. / Why do we wish to bear / Forever the noise of these / More than another noise / So close to our dwelling place?" — Robert Frost, "The Sound of Trees"
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