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I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostThank you for preaching about morals to me
Mr. Infanticide"I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
"[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostYou're welcome. You seem to sorely need it. I'm reading Michael Shermer's The Moral Arc at the moment, and can recommend it.
Your immorality on war issues is enough to be getting on with for now, we don't need to sidetrack into your immorality on abortion issues.
Soleimani has been a known terrorist for decades. As I showed earlier Obama had sanctioned him for terrorism years ago. The fact that YOU never heard of him until now doesn't mean he was some innocent General and diplomat. He was a monster.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostHe is a moral reprobate."I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
"[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostSoleimani has been a known terrorist for decades.
The fact that YOU never heard of him
doesn't mean he was some innocent General and diplomat. He was a monster."I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
"[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostSearching this site using both google search and TWeb's search gets no hits on his name until after his death. Clearly he didn't bother anyone enough to talk about him.
Various US sources are saying most people in the US hadn't heard of him. Trump clearly had never heard of him back when he was running for President and that right-wing radio host asked Trump about him. I doubt you'd personally heard of him before he was killed, but if you had you'd be the rare exception not the rule.
I don't feel I'm in a position to judge his character. Also, it's totally irrelevant. It's not relevant whether the guy was a saint or a monster. The right-wing can parade endless talking heads onto Fox News to say "he was a monster", but it's not important. What's important are the political ramifications of taking an act involving assassinating a politician.
https://time.com/collection/2017-tim...sem-soleimani/That's what
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Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
- Stephen R. Donaldson
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostI find it fascinating that you guys, as some of the most immoral people in the world, genuine seem to think not only that you are moral, but that you are in any position whatsoever to lecture anyone else about morality. Studying your fascinating psychologies is one of the main reasons this site still appeals to me.
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostMaybe the road a rubbish dump is on?
Are you aware that Soleimani's funeral has been attended by millions and millions of people, making it possibly the biggest funeral in human history?
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Some video footage you can flick through and see various different shots of the massive crowds:
The man was loved in Iran. A University of Maryland poll of Iranians at the end of last year found Suleimani had an 80% approval rating (and that was consistent with polling done by other agencies in Iran).
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostIn a dictatorship government-sponsored rallies and the like are hardly indications of broad support."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Not sure if this is true or not (it is based on someone's tweet of what Iran's Foreign Minister said)
But it if is, it is hilarious!
Iran threatens to expose western diplomats who took bribes to create the Iran Dealhttps://thepalmierireport.com/iran-t...the-iran-deal/
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostNot sure if this is true or not (it is based on someone's tweet of what Iran's Foreign Minister said)
But it if is, it is hilarious!
Iran threatens to expose western diplomats who took bribes to create the Iran Dealhttps://thepalmierireport.com/iran-t...the-iran-deal/The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostAttendance was probably mandatory.
For a comparison, something like a million Iranians took to the streets back in November to protest the government of which Soleimani was such an important part (he appears to have been selected to be the next president). That's a lot of people risking a lot (something like 1500 were killed by the Iranian government and at least 7000 were imprisoned).
Ze'ev Chafets, who is conservative so he can be safely dismissed by star and his ilk, has reported that government officials were going door-to-door asking the residents if they would be attending the funeral. If you don't want to add to the number of dead or imprisoned you can guess what the result was.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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