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  • #61
    Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
    Sometimes I think you guys are a bit sick. But in threads like these, all doubt is removed.
    Except a number of liberals actually are trying to blame Trump (I posted a couple of examples in this thread; I'll leave it as an exercise for you to find others), so my sarcastic gibe isn't too far off the mark.
    Last edited by Mountain Man; 01-10-2020, 04:20 PM.
    Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
    But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
    Than a fool in the eyes of God

    From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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    • #62
      Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
      Sometimes I think you guys are a bit sick. But in threads like these, all doubt is removed.
      When there are those on the left doing everything they can to blame Trump for the shoot-down, Jim, it's not "sick" to point that out.
      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
        When there are those on the left doing everything they can to blame Trump for the shoot-down, Jim, it's not "sick" to point that out.
        Unfortunately - whether you mean to or not ( or even noticed ) - it is also making light of the fact 176 people died and the Iranian government is trying to cover up what happened.
        My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

        If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

        This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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        • #64
          Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
          Unfortunately - whether you mean to or not ( or even noticed ) - it is also making light of the fact 176 people died and the Iranian government is trying to cover up what happened.
          No, Jim. It's not.
          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
            No, Jim. It's not.
            yeah - it pretty much is. Like I said, whether you realize it or not.
            My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

            If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

            This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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            • #66
              Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
              yeah - it pretty much is. Like I said, whether you realize it or not.
              No, it really isn't, whether you think it is or not.
              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
                Unfortunately - whether you mean to or not ( or even noticed ) - it is also making light of the fact 176 people died and the Iranian government is trying to cover up what happened.
                Oh, is that your beef? I thought you were calling us "sick" for pointing out that liberals are trying to blame Trump for Iran's actions.

                Anyway, whether you realize it or not, nobody is making light of the people's death.
                Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                Than a fool in the eyes of God

                From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                  Oh, is that your beef? I thought you were calling us "sick" for pointing out that liberals are trying to blame Trump for Iran's actions.

                  Anyway, whether you realize it or not, nobody is making light of the people's death.
                  Not here, anyway.
                  The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                    If they did shoot it down accidentally, which is what everyone thinks, then they should just admit it.
                    That would be nice.

                    But history tells us that no country is ever quick to say "oops, my bad" when they shoot down a civilian airliner by mistake. When the US military similarly accidentally shot down a civilian airliner (Iran Air 655) over Iran in 1988, they were anything but open and honest about what had happened and their own culpability in it, and it took 8 years for the US to issue a non-apology apology for it. Likewise it took Ukraine years to admit they'd mistakenly shot down Siberia Airlines Flight 1812 by mistake in 2001, and Russia still hasn't admitted its role in mistakenly shooting down Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 in 2014.
                    "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                    "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                    "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                      That would be nice.

                      But history tells us that no country is ever quick to say "oops, my bad" when they shoot down a civilian airliner by mistake. When the US military similarly accidentally shot down a civilian airliner (Iran Air 655) over Iran in 1988, they were anything but open and honest about what had happened and their own culpability in it, and it took 8 years for the US to issue a non-apology apology for it. Likewise it took Ukraine years to admit they'd mistakenly shot down Siberia Airlines Flight 1812 by mistake in 2001, and Russia still hasn't admitted its role in mistakenly shooting down Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 in 2014.
                      It wasn't "over Iran" - it was over Iranian Territorial Waters.
                      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                        Oh, is that your beef? I thought you were calling us "sick" for pointing out that liberals are trying to blame Trump for Iran's actions.

                        Anyway, whether you realize it or not, nobody is making light of the people's death.
                        I'm sure you think that.
                        My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

                        If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

                        This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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                        • #72
                          Iran admits they shot the plane down, claims it was unintentional.

                          https://www.breitbart.com/news/iran-...nian-jetliner/
                          Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                          But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                          Than a fool in the eyes of God

                          From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                            But history tells us that no country is ever quick to say "oops, my bad" when they shoot down a civilian airliner by mistake. When the US military similarly accidentally shot down a civilian airliner (Iran Air 655) over Iran in 1988, they were anything but open and honest about what had happened and their own culpability in it, and it took 8 years for the US to issue a non-apology apology for it. Likewise it took Ukraine years to admit they'd mistakenly shot down Siberia Airlines Flight 1812 by mistake in 2001, and Russia still hasn't admitted its role in mistakenly shooting down Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 in 2014.
                            ...and Iran has admitted their error in shooting down the plane. Does that make them the quickest country in history to admit such a mistake?
                            "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                            "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                            "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                              It wasn't "over Iran" - it was over Iranian Territorial Waters.
                              Goober.

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                                ...and Iran has admitted their error in shooting down the plane. Does that make them the quickest country in history to admit such a mistake?
                                Ground-based and satellite videos made denial impossible -- which is a first time in history.

                                I'm always still in trouble again

                                "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
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