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  • #76
    Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
    Iran admits they shot the plane down, claims it was unintentional.

    https://www.breitbart.com/news/iran-...nian-jetliner/
    Trump induced “human error”. Another very black mark on Trump’s presidency.
    “I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
    “And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
    “not all there” - you know who you are

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    • #77
      Originally posted by firstfloor View Post
      Trump induced “human error”. Another very black mark on Trump’s presidency.
      You are little different than the abusive husband who whines that "she made me do it."

      I'm always still in trouble again

      "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
      "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
      "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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      • #78
        Originally posted by dirtfloor View Post
        Trump induced “human error”. Another very black mark on Trump’s presidency.
        A kid who has been bullied for years finally stands up for himself. The bully in a panic takes a wild swing that breaks the nose of an innocent bystander. Now you're blaming the bullied kid for fighting back instead of the bully who actually threw the punch. That's insane.
        Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
        But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
        Than a fool in the eyes of God


        From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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        • #79
          Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
          You are little different than the abusive husband who whines that "she made me do it."
          Criticizing Trump makes you little different than an abusive husband.

          Time to talk to your dealer, rouge. That dope ain't straight.

          Objectively, the SA-15 battery (reportedly), would not have been deployed were it not for a credible threat (including war crimes) from Trump, who had already ordered two assassinations of Iranian nationals. Subjectively, the consequences of that threat — Iran shooting down a Ukrainian flight using a Russian missile system — were wildly fortunate for Trump, an Iranian goal deflection of historic proportion.

          All y'all Trump apologists should dance that jig out of your system and go home.

          Because at the end of the day, our state department is still telling all Americans to leave Iraq immediately (without approaching our embassy), the Iraqi parliament is calling for all of our troops to leave, Soleimani has been replaced by his deputy, and the guy who accomplished all this is still saying it made us safer.

          If it weren't for that 737, Iran would be spiking in the endzone.

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          • #80
            Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
            A kid who has been bullied for years finally stands up for himself. The bully in a panic takes a wild swing that breaks the nose of an innocent bystander. Now you're blaming the bullied kid for fighting back instead of the bully who actually threw the punch. That's insane.
            Your trying to paint the US as a kid who'se been bullied for years? That is nuts.
            My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

            If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

            This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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            • #81
              Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
              Sometimes I think you guys are a bit sick. But in threads like these, all doubt is removed.
              I suggest you stay away from veterans if you find this ‘sick’.
              "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
              GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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              • #82
                Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
                Your trying to paint the US as a kid who'se been bullied for years? That is nuts.
                Read the Bible if you want to see how superpowers of the past acted. How fearful were people when Paul said he was a Roman citizen? Why were they so fearful?
                "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
                GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
                  Your trying to paint the US as a kid who'se been bullied for years? That is nuts.
                  Tell that to our troops who were killed and wounded by Soleimani's EFPs. Sometimes Jim you are willfully ignorant.

                  https://www.stripes.com/news/middle-...-iraq-1.613460
                  Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
                    Your trying to paint the US as a kid who'se been bullied for years? That is nuts.
                    Your ignorance of world affairs is not my problem.
                    Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                    But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                    Than a fool in the eyes of God


                    From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by Juvenal View Post
                      Criticizing Trump makes you little different than an abusive husband.

                      Time to talk to your dealer, rouge. That dope ain't straight.

                      Objectively, the SA-15 battery (reportedly), would not have been deployed were it not for a credible threat (including war crimes) from Trump, who had already ordered two assassinations of Iranian nationals. Subjectively, the consequences of that threat — Iran shooting down a Ukrainian flight using a Russian missile system — were wildly fortunate for Trump, an Iranian goal deflection of historic proportion.

                      All y'all Trump apologists should dance that jig out of your system and go home.

                      Because at the end of the day, our state department is still telling all Americans to leave Iraq immediately (without approaching our embassy), the Iraqi parliament is calling for all of our troops to leave, Soleimani has been replaced by his deputy, and the guy who accomplished all this is still saying it made us safer.

                      If it weren't for that 737, Iran would be spiking in the endzone.
                      Wow. After that you have the audacity of accusing someone else of abusing drugs? That last sentence is better evidence that those mushrooms on your pizza aren't porcini, but are instead of the "magic" variety, than any drug test could ever possibly provide.

                      I'm always still in trouble again

                      "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                      "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                      "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                      • #86
                        It looks like at least some Iranians are tired of having been lied to and, risking arrest and execution, are demanding that Khamenei resign.


                        Source: Iranian protesters demand Khamenei quits over plane downing


                        The concealment of the Ukrainian jet downing by the Iranian authorities raised questions among the republic's citizens, leading to the renewal of the protests.


                        A group of Iranian protesters demanded Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei step down on Saturday after Tehran said that its military had mistakenly shot down a Ukrainian plane, killing all 176 people on board.

                        "Commander-in-chief [Khamenei] resign, resign," videos posted on Twitter showed hundreds of people chanting in front of Tehran's Amir Kabir university.

                        This is the first protest since the assassination of IRGC Quds Force Commander Qasem Soleimani. Last November, hundreds were killed in protests in multiple cities across the Islamic Republic.

                        In videos circulating on social media in November, demonstrators in western Iran and in the republic's capital were seen chanting "Death to Khamenei!"

                        Iranian authorities shut off the internet across the country, blocking communications in preparation for expected protests.



                        Source

                        © Copyright Original Source



                        Source: 'Death to liars!' Iranian protesters in Tehran turn against regime and demand the Ayatollah RESIGN after country's military admits it shot down passenger plane full of its own citizens

                        • Protests broke out at four universities in Tehran on Saturday after military admitted fatal blunder
                        • Angry crowds demanded the Ayatollah's resignation and full investigation into the disaster
                        • Iranian air defenses shot down civilian passenger plane carrying 176 people, most of them Iranian citizens
                        • The country was on high alert after targeting US forces with ballistic missiles in bloodless strike


                        Iranians have gathered in the streets of Tehran to demand the resignation of Ayatollah Seyed Ali Khamenei after the regime admitted it had mistakenly shot down a passenger plane.

                        Angry crowds gathered on Saturday night in at least four locations in Tehran, chanting 'death to liars' and calling for the country's supreme leader to step down over the tragic military blunder, video from the scene shows.

                        What began as mournful vigils for Iranian lives lost on the flight quickly turned to outrage and protest against the regime, and riot police quickly cracked down, firing tear gas into the crowd.

                        'Death to the Islamic Republic' protesters chanted, as the regime's paramilitary security force allegedly used ambulances to sneak heavily armed paramilitary police into the middle of crowds to disperse the demonstration.



                        Source

                        © Copyright Original Source


                        I'm always still in trouble again

                        "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                        "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                        "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                          It looks like at least some Iranians are tired of having been lied to and, risking arrest and execution, are demanding that Khamenei resign.


                          Source: Iranian protesters demand Khamenei quits over plane downing


                          The concealment of the Ukrainian jet downing by the Iranian authorities raised questions among the republic's citizens, leading to the renewal of the protests.


                          A group of Iranian protesters demanded Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei step down on Saturday after Tehran said that its military had mistakenly shot down a Ukrainian plane, killing all 176 people on board.

                          "Commander-in-chief [Khamenei] resign, resign," videos posted on Twitter showed hundreds of people chanting in front of Tehran's Amir Kabir university.

                          This is the first protest since the assassination of IRGC Quds Force Commander Qasem Soleimani. Last November, hundreds were killed in protests in multiple cities across the Islamic Republic.

                          In videos circulating on social media in November, demonstrators in western Iran and in the republic's capital were seen chanting "Death to Khamenei!"

                          Iranian authorities shut off the internet across the country, blocking communications in preparation for expected protests.



                          Source

                          © Copyright Original Source



                          Source: 'Death to liars!' Iranian protesters in Tehran turn against regime and demand the Ayatollah RESIGN after country's military admits it shot down passenger plane full of its own citizens

                          • Protests broke out at four universities in Tehran on Saturday after military admitted fatal blunder
                          • Angry crowds demanded the Ayatollah's resignation and full investigation into the disaster
                          • Iranian air defenses shot down civilian passenger plane carrying 176 people, most of them Iranian citizens
                          • The country was on high alert after targeting US forces with ballistic missiles in bloodless strike


                          Iranians have gathered in the streets of Tehran to demand the resignation of Ayatollah Seyed Ali Khamenei after the regime admitted it had mistakenly shot down a passenger plane.

                          Angry crowds gathered on Saturday night in at least four locations in Tehran, chanting 'death to liars' and calling for the country's supreme leader to step down over the tragic military blunder, video from the scene shows.

                          What began as mournful vigils for Iranian lives lost on the flight quickly turned to outrage and protest against the regime, and riot police quickly cracked down, firing tear gas into the crowd.

                          'Death to the Islamic Republic' protesters chanted, as the regime's paramilitary security force allegedly used ambulances to sneak heavily armed paramilitary police into the middle of crowds to disperse the demonstration.



                          Source

                          © Copyright Original Source

                          But the media assured us Iran was totally United after the death of their beloved General. You’re saying that’s not true at all?
                          "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
                          GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View Post
                            But the media assured us Iran was totally United after the death of their beloved General. You’re saying that’s not true at all?
                            I read a rumor that Iran's military police were going door to door strongly "encouraging" people to attend the funeral.
                            Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                            But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                            Than a fool in the eyes of God


                            From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by Juvenal View Post
                              Objectively, the SA-15 battery (reportedly), would not have been deployed were it not for a credible threat (including war crimes) from Trump...
                              So what you're saying is that it's Trump's fault for exercising restraint and not responding to Iran's attack on our military bases?

                              Alrighty then!

                              The most baffling thing in all of this is why Iran didn't ground all civilian flights during combat operations.
                              Last edited by Mountain Man; 01-11-2020, 12:23 PM.
                              Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                              But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                              Than a fool in the eyes of God


                              From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                                I read a rumor that Iran's military police were going door to door strongly "encouraging" people to attend the funeral.

                                Originally posted by rogue06 View Post


                                Ze'ev Chafets, who is conservative so he can be safely dismissed by star and his ilk, has reported that government officials were going door-to-door asking the residents if they would be attending the funeral. If you don't want to add to the number of dead or imprisoned you can guess what the result was.

                                I'm always still in trouble again

                                "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                                "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                                "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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