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The blue-state exodus gains momentum
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"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostThat would be of those who actually pay income taxes. Nearly half the people don't pay income taxes any more getting everything they put in during the year back -- with many getting more back than they paid (thanks to the Earned Income Tax Credit which in truth oughta be called the Unearned Income Tax program)"The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostThe blue-state exodus gains momentum
As is pointed out in the article, some of the people who are moving from the blue states to escape the idiotic governance and taxation are, oddly enough, bringing their same beliefs and support for that kind of crap to the red states.
Nine years ago I published a piece that asserted, “Voters around the country are concluding it’s better to be red than dead,” applying almost the exact opposite meaning to an old phrase referring to communism. New Census Bureau figures appear to confirm my prediction — mostly.
My point was that many voters were, and are, increasingly fed up with the high taxes, heavy regulations and increasing social wokeness that have come to characterize most blue states — i.e., those dominated by liberal politicians and policies.
I argued that voters wanting to live in a business-friendly, fiscally responsible state that minimizes its tax burden would either vote out the liberals destroying their state’s economy or flee to a red state. The latest Census Bureau report highlights the red-state shift.
According to an Election Data Services analysis of the Census Bureau report, “The population projections point toward a ten [congressional] seat change over 17 states across the nation by year 2020.”
Seven states are projected to gain one or more congressional seats after the 2020 election; 10 states are projected lose one seat.
The red-state leader is Texas, with a projected pickup of three congressional seats following the 2020 census — and that after gaining four congressional seats after the 2010 election. Florida will pick up two seats, and Arizona, Colorado, Montana, North Carolina and Oregon will each gain one, according to the analysis.
All 10 losing states — Alabama, California, Illinois, Michigan, Minnesota, New York, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island and West Virginia — lose only one seat.
Of the seven states gaining seats, five voted for Donald Trump in the 2016 presidential election. Of the 10 states losing seats, five voted for Trump and five for Hillary Clinton.
But two of those five losing states that voted for Trump — Michigan and Pennsylvania — surprised most analysts since they have been blue-leaners for several years. And West Virginia is losing population in part because of a struggling state economy that has been so dependent on coal.
Arguably, even some of the blue-state gainers may support my general point......
But that trend also highlights a problem: Some of the people fleeing destructive blue-state taxes and regulations appear to drag their pro-big-government philosophy with them — apparently oblivious to the fact that those policies destroyed the state they are trying to escape.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostObviously they aren't moving to escape liberal policies as assumed in the post, if they're bringing those same beliefs with them.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostObviously they aren't moving to escape liberal policies as assumed in the post, if they're bringing those same beliefs with them."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostThat would be of those who actually pay income taxes. Nearly half the people don't pay income taxes any more getting everything they put in during the year back -- with many getting more back than they paid (thanks to the Earned Income Tax Credit which in truth oughta be called the Unearned Income Tax program)
Regardless, the rich are clearly not taxed enough.
I really hate Twitter video for a million reasons, not the least of which is I can't embed them in my messages here. But take a quick look at that animation, it is quite eye opening.
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Originally posted by DivineOb View PostI hear conservatives complain about the poorer getting more out than they put in. Isn't that how government is supposed to work? If everyone got back what they put in then then we wouldn't need government and we could just pay for everything ourselves, right? Maybe you can enlighten me.
Regardless, the rich are clearly not taxed enough.
I really hate Twitter video for a million reasons, not the least of which is I can't embed them in my messages here. But take a quick look at that animation, it is quite eye opening.
Please tell me you don't vote.
And before you respond keep in mind that I contribute to charities (I use money orders so I don't incessantly get hounded for more), have worked feeding the hungry (spent more than one Thanksgiving working with Hosea Williams Feed the Hungry) and helped set up for the local Muscular Dystrophy Association during the telethons as well as contributed money to my church to assist a wide variety of causes.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by DivineOb View PostI hear conservatives complain about the poorer getting more out than they put in. Isn't that how government is supposed to work? If everyone got back what they put in then then we wouldn't need government and we could just pay for everything ourselves, right? Maybe you can enlighten me.
Regardless, the rich are clearly not taxed enough.
I really hate Twitter video for a million reasons, not the least of which is I can't embed them in my messages here. But take a quick look at that animation, it is quite eye opening."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View PostDefine ‘rich’ and define ‘not taxed enough’.
Today just the top 1% pays over 37% of all income taxes collected by the federal government which is more than the bottom 90% combined does (30.5%).
Further, the top 10% pay 69% whereas bottom half pays roughly 3% of all income taxes paid.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostSo you think that the government's purpose is to redistribute wealth.
Please tell me you don't vote.
And before you respond keep in mind that I contribute to charities (I use money orders so I don't incessantly get hounded for more), have worked feeding the hungry (spent more than one Thanksgiving working with Hosea Williams Feed the Hungry) and helped set up for the local Muscular Dystrophy Association during the telethons as well as contributed money to my church to assist a wide variety of causes.
Also, please view the link I posted and give me your thoughts.
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Originally posted by DivineOb View PostCan you define "wealth redistribution"? Then I'll give you my thoughts on it.
Also, please view the link I posted and give me your thoughts.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by DivineOb View PostBy that definition no, I do not think that is the purpose of government. Thanks for playing.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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