Warren vs Sanders

[seanD]

I remember people thinking "Trump's rise is of great benefit to the Democrats in 2016."

I'm saying that for slightly different reasons though. I don't think he'll get the nom simply because of what the DNC establishment did to him last time and the same similar signs they're showing now. I also believe the Dems are much more divided than the Reps were in 2016 (progressive vs. moderate vs. establishment), indicative of the amount of money flowing to the candidates, minus the money flowing into the DNC. If he doesn't get picked, I suspect much more no-votes and swing votes than last time. But if he does get picked, do you think Biden and Warren supporters are going to vote for him? It's possible, but it's iffy under these circumstances.

[Mountain Man]

I remember people thinking "Trump's rise is of great benefit to the Democrats in 2016."

Just because one longshot candidate handily won doesn't mean that every longshot candidate will do the same. Trump won because he's Trump, and he tirelessly campaigned against a worn and arrogant opponent, presenting a strong and consistent message that resonated with voters. Do you think Bernie would be capable of keeping up? Or even Biden? Trump is going to do like he did with Hillary and deliberately set a fast pace that will exhaust his opponents and run them into the ground.

[JimL]

Just because one longshot candidate handily won doesn't mean that every longshot candidate will do the same. Trump won because he's Trump, and he tirelessly campaigned against a worn and arrogant opponent, presenting a strong and consistent message that resonated with voters. Do you think Bernie would be capable of keeping up? Or even Biden? Trump is going to do like he did with Hillary and deliberately set a fast pace that will exhaust his opponents and run them into the ground.

Handily won by minus 3 million votes.

[lilpixieofterror]

Handily won by minus 3 million votes.

We’ve been through this before Jimmy, running up the voter tally, in California, isn’t how an election is won.

[JimL]

We’ve been through this before Jimmy, running up the voter tally, in California, isn’t how an election is won.

Yes, we know Lilpix. Trump won the electoral college by some 70,000 votes and lost the popular vote by 3 million.

[Mountain Man]

Handily won by minus 3 million votes.

304 electoral college votes to Hillary's 227. Trump only needed 270 to win, so he cleared the hurdle by 34 votes and beat Hillary by 77.

So, yes, he won handily.

[lilpixieofterror]

Yes, we know Lilpix. Trump won the electoral college by some 70,000 votes and lost the popular vote by 3 million.

“Oh yeah, my team got more points!”

Says the sore loser, not understanding that sports works by who wins the most games, not who scores the points over the course of the season. Again Jimmy, the only tally that matters is the EC one. The popular vote is merely a stat.

[JimL]

304 electoral college votes to Hillary's 227. Trump only needed 270 to win, so he cleared the hurdle by 34 votes and beat Hillary by 77.

So, yes, he won handily.

As a result of winning 3 Russian targeted states by a mere 70,000 votes while losing the popular vote by 3 million. Hardly what I'd call, "handily won."

[lilpixieofterror]

As a result of winning 3 Russian targeted states by a mere 70,000 votes while losing the popular vote by 3 million. Hardly what I'd call, "handily won."

Name 10 votes, changed by Russia.



You’re masters lied to you Jimmy, when will you accept that democrat overconfidence and stupidity, not a tin foil hat conspiracy, is why they lost?

[Mountain Man]

As a result of winning 3 Russian targeted states by a mere 70,000 votes while losing the popular vote by 3 million. Hardly what I'd call, "handily won."

And you're hardly what I would call intelligent and rational.

BAM!

[Mountain Man]

Name 10 votes, changed by Russia.



You’re masters lied to you Jimmy, when will you accept that democrat overconfidence and stupidity, not a tin foil hat conspiracy, is why they lost?

People like Jimmy still haven't figured out that Rachael Maddow was spinning tall tales.

[JimL]

Name 10 votes, changed by Russia.



You’re masters lied to you Jimmy, when will you accept that democrat overconfidence and stupidity, not a tin foil hat conspiracy, is why they lost?

Do you think that Trump colluded with the Russians because he thought it wouldn't have any effect? We have no idea how many votes were determined by the Trump/Russian collusion, but they certainly believe it worked for them.

[Mountain Man]

Do you think that Trump colluded with the Russians because he thought it wouldn't have any effect?

"The investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities."
-Special Counsel Robert "Dirty Cop" Mueller

[JimL]

"The investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities."
-Special Counsel Robert "Dirty Cop" Mueller

Actually it did. P.Manafort gave to the Russians targeted geographic polling data. That's what you call collusion. It's in the report that the corrupt Atty Gen. swept under the rug.

[Mountain Man]

Actually it did. P.Manafort gave to the Russians targeted geographic polling data. That's what you call collusion. It's in the report that the corrupt Atty Gen. swept under the rug.

So Mueller's own report contradicts itself?