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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostThe New York "1619 Project" Times?
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by DivineOb View PostDo you have any idea of how much credibility the NYT will lose if this story turns out to be false?Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostAs much credibility as they've lost publishing false stories in the past, and hiring racist and anti-Semitic editors and writers. And when this Bolton Bombshell fizzles, they'll blow it off with a half-hearted retraction just like they do with every other controversy involving the publication. There's a reason the New York Times is no longer considered "the paper of record".
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostIt was not a violation of the law.
And you're relying on anonymous hearsay for "Trump told Bolton". Anonymous hearsay a couple times removed is not evidence.
Bolton's book -- the relevant content of which has not been denied by Bolton or the White House -- is evidence that Bolton has first-hand knowledge of Trump's intent to hold Ukrainian security aid until he got "material" from the investigations he wanted for personal purposes. All that's being litigated here is whether or not Bolton gets called to give testimony before the trial, as would be typical for direct witnesses.
There's no argument to be had here: you're all trying to cover for a trial where relevant witnesses are not called, even though one has explicitly said he has relevant information not yet in the record. It's disgraceful.
--Sam"I wonder about the trees. / Why do we wish to bear / Forever the noise of these / More than another noise / So close to our dwelling place?" — Robert Frost, "The Sound of Trees"
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostAs I've been repeatedly warning y'all there is a big danger in constantly making allegations that don't pan out.
This is a bed of your own making that y'all were grimly determined on doing.
--Sam"I wonder about the trees. / Why do we wish to bear / Forever the noise of these / More than another noise / So close to our dwelling place?" — Robert Frost, "The Sound of Trees"
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