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    The new arms race and Cold War II

    Occasionally, it is good to discuss and highlight actually significant news and events.

    Last year, a treaty that aimed to prevent an arms race was abandoned by the US and Russia. This means no more pretense. Very recently, Trump officially established the US Space Force. Again, no more pretense, the arms race is officially on.

    Cold conflict has been ongoing, with notable proxy military conflicts in Ukraine and Syria, and political struggles in Venezuela. It's safe to say that Cold War II has begun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by demi-conservative View Post
    Occasionally, it is good to discuss and highlight actually significant news and events.

    Last year, a treaty that aimed to prevent an arms race was abandoned by the US and Russia. This means no more pretense. Very recently, Trump officially established the US Space Force. Again, no more pretense, the arms race is officially on.

    Cold conflict has been ongoing, with notable proxy military conflicts in Ukraine and Syria, and political struggles in Venezuela. It's safe to say that Cold War II has begun.
    Interesting topic. There may be enough difference between today's Russia and the old Soviet Union that will preclude another cold war.

    1) The Soviet Union was always quite intent on being a world leader, with exporting its brand of communism, and it had the resources to sustain a military build up that went beyond what its economy would allow. The end result is Russia's stockpile of inter-continental nuclear ballistic missiles (which can't be used for anything other than bluff). A diminished and non-communist Russia, with an economy the size of Spain, isn't cut out for competition with the US.

    2) Russia seems more intent on being a regional leader, in Asia and near Asia. The global aspirations of the Soviets isn't very apparent now. Maybe with some of the old generals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronson View Post
    2) Russia seems more intent on being a regional leader, in Asia and near Asia.
    Agree, but that clearly hasn't prevented conflict with the US. Russia being 'only' a regional interest conflicts with US interests, and another cold war is indicated.
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    I've heard arguments we're actually in WW3, only instead of superpowers going at it with conventional weapons, it consists of extremely complex hybrid warfare: Cyber -- which includes not only hacking attacks but the control of information and disinformation; Economic -- western sanctions on Eurasia and Eurasia's strategic maneuvers around those sanctions (Belt and Road, etc.); Regional proxy warfare -- US, Saudi, Israel using terrorist proxies in Iraq and Syria against Russia, China, Iran using their own terrorists proxies to counter those proxies. And each of those three modes of warfare have complexities within themselves.
    "I was the CIA director. We lied, we cheated, we stole, it was like... we had entire training courses. It reminds you of the glory of the American experiment." - Mike Pompeo, Secretary of State (source).

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