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  • #16
    Originally posted by seanD View Post
    The video's too long. But how does she square the contradiction of intelligence embracing a communist/Stalinist ideology on one hand, as she claims, and spreading fearmonger about Russia and the red scare to ridiculous levels to the public on the other?
    Its nutcase stuff. No need to reconcile things.
    My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

    If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

    This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
      Kinda like pulling the race card --- just call somebody a racist and expect the conversation to shut down. Fortunately, that's not working so much anymore.
      Kinda like pulling the TDS card, the nanny card, the "enemy of the cross" card and all the other cards you have been pulling.

      Or pulling the "do you have a point?" card right after the point was made.

      It seems you believe it's working.
      "Yes. President Trump is a huge embarrassment. And it’s an embarrassment to evangelical Christianity that there appear to be so many who will celebrate precisely the aspects that I see Biblically as most lamentable and embarrassing." Southern Baptist leader Albert Mohler Jr.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
        Kinda like pulling the race card --- just call somebody a racist and expect the conversation to shut down. Fortunately, that's not working so much anymore.
        This is a free country, so I am sure somewhere in the intelligence community you might find something that resembles a communist mindset. But my experience would imply it's not the norm.

        It's nutcase stuff.
        Last edited by oxmixmudd; 01-21-2020, 10:44 AM.
        My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

        If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

        This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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        • #19
          Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
          Its nutcase stuff. No need to reconcile things.
          Funny you post this right after CP points out the modern disregard of opposing views by calling them racists.

          People are so nervous of being called a Bircher that they will disregard evidence in favor of name calling. Such simple pre-defined responses to evidence represents one of the aspects found among brainwashed people. The thinking-process is cutoff in these scenarios.

          Is Diana West's research accurate or not?

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          • #20
            Originally posted by mikewhitney View Post
            Funny you post this right after CP points out the modern disregard of opposing views by calling them racists.

            People are so nervous of being called a Bircher that they will disregard evidence in favor of name calling. Such simple pre-defined responses to evidence represents one of the aspects found among brainwashed people. The thinking-process is cutoff in these scenarios.

            Is Diana West's research accurate or not?
            My call on it being nutcase stuff has nothing to do with it being 'bircher' stuff, any more than my rejection of John Martin's geocentrism had anything to do with him being part of a catholic extremist sect.
            My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

            If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

            This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Charles View Post
              Kinda like pulling the TDS card, the nanny card, the "enemy of the cross" card and all the other cards you have been pulling.
              Observations, my boy, but I really don't expect that to shut you down. And here you are!

              Or pulling the "do you have a point?" card right after the point was made.
              You're doing that thing again, where you're being a nanny.

              It seems you believe it's working.
              Nope, I'm a realist. You're still here, right?
              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
                This is a free country, so I am sure somewhere in the intelligence community you might find something that resembles a communist mindset. But my experience would imply it's not the norm.

                It's nutcase stuff.
                You'd have to show where I'm actually defending the notion that it's the norm, Jim.

                Get back to me on that, K?
                The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                  You'd have to show where I'm actually defending the notion that it's the norm, Jim.

                  Get back to me on that, K?
                  No I dont. You are defending the notion there might be something valid in that video (actually, you are mostly just being purposefully and illogical contrary) Which means you may as well be defending the idea that there might be something valid in John Martin's gecentrism.
                  Last edited by oxmixmudd; 01-21-2020, 11:02 AM.
                  My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

                  If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

                  This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
                    No I dont. You are defending the notion there might be something valid in that video.
                    Nope. Which is why you can't show me where I'm doing any such thing.

                    Which means you may as well be defending the idea that there might be something valid in John Martin's gecentrism.
                    I might as well try to defend the notion that there's something valid in your false accusations.
                    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                      Well fluoridation does cause autism after all. And vaccines did 9/11 before faking the moon landing. Except it was all done by communist ideology. They're probably spying on us from our microwaves as we speak. Fortunately Trump is working with QAnon to thwart the Illuminati. The anti-Christs of Hillary 2020 and cultural marxism will not prevail.
                      I think I understand your deep argument. If flouridation is not harmful, then there are no communist idealists working in the FBI. So one little argument about flouridation determines the results on every other issue you disagree with.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                        Nope. Which is why you can't show me where I'm doing any such thing.



                        I might as well try to defend the notion that there's something valid in your false accusations.
                        Have you nothing more useful to do than make up implications that dont exist and then use them to create meaningless arguments?
                        My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

                        If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

                        This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
                          My call on it being nutcase stuff has nothing to do with it being 'bircher' stuff, any more than my rejection of John Martin's geocentrism had anything to do with him being part of a catholic extremist sect.
                          I'm sorry. That was the extent of your argument was "this is nutcase stuff." But somehow the Dems action is substantiated despite the lack of legitimate charges or true evidence. I think we should all trust you with the conspiracy case provided by the Dems -- how is their Russian conspiracy theory different from any other conspiracy theory? Wouldn't the Russians prefer to infiltrate the FBI if they wanted to influence Trump?

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by mikewhitney View Post
                            I'm sorry. That was the extent of your argument was "this is nutcase stuff." But somehow the Dems action is substantiated despite the lack of legitimate charges or true evidence. I think we should all trust you with the conspiracy case provided by the Dems -- how is their Russian conspiracy theory different from any other conspiracy theory? Wouldn't the Russians prefer to infiltrate the FBI if they wanted to influence Trump?
                            How is it different? Real and legitimate evidence vs a single nutcase hack might have something to do with it. Trump has close connections to a large number of people with close ties to Putin. That is real. And in anyone's playbook prior to this insane presidency, that alone would have been justification for a thorough investigation of those ties and the very real potential Donald Trump is dangerously compromised by them.

                            But I have additional reasons to pronounce it nutcase stuff. But not things I am willing to discuss. And so that is all you get. It's nutcase stuff.
                            Last edited by oxmixmudd; 01-21-2020, 11:24 AM.
                            My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

                            If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

                            This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
                              Have you nothing more useful to do than make up implications that dont exist and then use them to create meaningless arguments?
                              Have you nothing more useful to do than be a grumbly old fart looking to start unnecessary fights?

                              Sheeeesh, Jim, GROW UP!
                              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by mikewhitney View Post
                                What we see among the Dems is that they accuse Trump of being supported by the "communist" Russia when it is the Dems whom Russia would support due to common socialist/communist policies. (The main difference between socialism and communism was in the supposed differences in the way to achieve socialism.) It is not hard for pro-Communist leaders to denounce Communism, so as to attract support. The leaders can do this while fully supporting Communism idealism.

                                West's discussion indicated the Comey had ambitions to get into government work to influence it with his unconstitutional ambitions. People that seek to influence the government most would be the same ones who seek government work.
                                There's no question that the socialism of the progressive left is a mirror image of the socialism of the Soviet Union (especially the way they try and shut down free speech behind the cloak of political correctness). I don't think anyone would dispute that, except maybe the hardcore leftist socialists themselves. In fact, I don't find it an accident that pro-Russian networks like RT and Sputnik push progressive politics because that's obviously more aligned with their old socialist philosophy. What I'm having trouble is how she's connecting the intelligence community to that whole thing when they're the ones creating red scare paranoia at the same time. Is there a point in the video she addresses this?

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