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    Shifty Schiff says:

    "If a president can be so easily manipulated to disbelieve his own intelligence agencies, to accept the propaganda of the Kremlin, that is a threat to our national security—and this is just what has happened here."

    I guess he missed the news last night that the FISA warrants against Carter Page that were used to spy on the Trump campaign were ruled invalid because the FBI lied to the judge in order to get them approved.

    Schiff also claims that the Russians have a psychological profile on Trump so they know how to manipulate him.

    Seriously, man, Schiff is a nut!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Man View Post
    Shifty Schiff says:

    "If a president can be so easily manipulated to disbelieve his own intelligence agencies, to accept the propaganda of the Kremlin, that is a threat to our national security—and this is just what has happened here."

    I guess he missed the news last night that the FISA warrants against Carter Page that were used to spy on the Trump campaign were ruled invalid because the FBI lied to the judge in order to get them approved.

    Schiff also claims that the Russians have a psychological profile on Trump so they know how to manipulate him.

    Seriously, man, Schiff is a nut!
    I am sure they have a psychological profile on him too, as well as every other high ranking person in the government, past and present. I am sure we have them on the Ruskies too. That's what the CIA does. And any president that just takes the word of any info reported to him by any agency, without using his own judgment is the one I want to keep out of office. His JOB is to take the information given to him, decide if it is valid and make decisions based on his judgment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    And any president that just takes the word of any info reported to him by any agency, without using his own judgment is the one I want to keep out of office. His JOB is to take the information given to him, decide if it is valid and make decisions based on his judgment.
    I'm not sure where Democrats picked up this idea that the President isn't his own agent and is simply supposed to do whatever his advisers tell him to do.

    Or maybe I do when I consider that Barrack "Lead From Behind" Obama was the quintessential Democrat president.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Man View Post
    I'm not sure where Democrats picked up this idea that the President isn't his own agent and is simply supposed to do whatever his advisers tell him to do.

    Or maybe I do when I consider that Barrack "Lead From Behind" Obama was the quintessential Democrat president.
    They want a puppet President that they can control. Trump doesn't play by their rules and that makes them upset. They want him to be part of the swamp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Man View Post
    I'm not sure where Democrats picked up this idea that the President isn't his own agent and is simply supposed to do whatever his advisers tell him to do.
    And how they elevate "career diplomats" in foreign policy over POTUS who SETS foreign policy. They employ Tassmanlike superfluous adverbs and adjectives making these people 'gods', and Trump a monster.
    "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Man View Post
    Shifty Schiff says:

    "If a president can be so easily manipulated to disbelieve his own intelligence agencies, to accept the propaganda of the Kremlin, that is a threat to our national security—and this is just what has happened here."

    I guess he missed the news last night that the FISA warrants against Carter Page that were used to spy on the Trump campaign were ruled invalid because the FBI lied to the judge in order to get them approved.

    Schiff also claims that the Russians have a psychological profile on Trump so they know how to manipulate him.

    Seriously, man, Schiff is a nut!
    Wasn't this supposed to be about Ukraine aid?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill the Cat View Post
    Wasn't this supposed to be about Ukraine aid?
    Do they realize that Russia and Ukraine are enemies? How can Trump be both a Russian Puppet and Ukrainian Puppet Master?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    Do they realize that Russia and Ukraine are enemies? How can Trump be both a Russian Puppet and Ukrainian Puppet Master?
    And how many times did Obama either assist or fail to stand up to Russia?

    5 Times The Obama Administration Helped Russia At The United States’ Expense
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    Quote Originally Posted by lilpixieofterror View Post
    What makes you think that it will go down in history as a triumph vs a failure?
    It will go down as a triumph if the President is held to account, a failure, and a black mark on democracy, if he is not. Why? Because he is obviously guilty, putting his own personal interests ahead of the countries vital interests, that he can, as he has done, collude, bribe or extort foreign governments while putting our own, as well as our democratic alies, national security at risk, and it will render the supposed co-equal branch unable to do anything about it. And if he gets away with it this second time, you can be assured that he will feel free to, and as he has shown, will do, again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimL View Post
    It will go down as a triumph if the President is held to account, a failure, and a black mark on democracy, if he is not. Why? Because he is obviously guilty, putting his own personal interests ahead of the countries vital interests, that he can, as he has done, collude, bribe or extort foreign governments while putting our own, as well as our democratic alies, national security at risk, and it will render the supposed co-equal branch unable to do anything about it. And if he gets away with it this second time, you can be assured that he will feel free to, and as he has shown, will do, again.
    So, you've already declared him guilty until proven innocent? Good job Comrade.


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