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    Quote Originally Posted by firstfloor View Post
    Republican senators will make their decisions not based on the evidence before them, but what vote helps to get them re-elected.

    It is the nature of the American system of government that politics so easily overrides justice at this level of the hierarchy.
    You act as if the two are mutually exclusive here.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill the Cat View Post
    The leftist media is literally treating Schiff's droning nonsense as "the best speech since I Have A Dream". I wish I were kidding...
    I wish you could hear what Schiff is saying. 'here right matters'. And unfortunately, that is no longer true. Yet you, MM and others mock it, like its a joke.

    It is no joke.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill the Cat View Post
    You act as if the two are mutually exclusive here.
    You could make it that senators are elected for only one term in two or three, say, and they may not be lobbyists for industry, and so on, if you wanted to separate money, justice and politics. Drain the swamp!
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    Quote Originally Posted by oxmixmudd View Post
    I wish you could hear what Schiff is saying. 'here right matters'. And unfortunately, that is no longer true. Yet you, MM and others mock it, like its a joke.

    It is no joke.
    I'm laughing at Schiff making absurd comments like the Judiciary and the population of the country not being trusted to decide what is right. Only HE and the House can, and the Senate BETTER agree with them or else...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill the Cat View Post
    I'm laughing at Schiff making absurd comments like the Judiciary and the population of the country not being trusted to decide what is right. Only HE and the House can, and the Senate BETTER agree with them or else...
    You would do well to stop listening to the GOP spin zone and start looking at what was actually said.
    He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me."

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    Quote Originally Posted by oxmixmudd View Post
    You would do well to stop listening to the GOP spin zone and start looking at what was actually said.
    I listened, Jim. You would do well to stop playing Karnak when it comes to what I listen to and what I don't.


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    Quote Originally Posted by firstfloor View Post
    You could make it that senators are elected for only one term in two or three, say, and they may not be lobbyists for industry, and so on, if you wanted to separate money, justice and politics. Drain the swamp!
    I'd support that all day. Maybe allow one per state to serve a second term just so there is SOME continuity.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill the Cat View Post
    I listened, Jim. You would do well to stop playing Karnak when it comes to what I listen to and what I don't.
    Your post #174 suggests otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimL View Post
    Your post #174 suggests otherwise.
    I stated just what the idiot said!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill the Cat View Post
    I listened, Jim. You would do well to stop playing Karnak when it comes to what I listen to and what I don't.
    Karnak?

    The point of course is that you are allowing opportunistic spin to cloud your judgement of what was actually said, and the reality behind it. And the reality is, Schiff is referring to the fact Donald Trump has openly requested and now attempted to purposfully enlist help from foreign governments to win our election. Which means that we need to act to remove him both for the principle of it, and before he (or some successor eyeing the fact Trump got away with it) is actually successful in those efforts and secures an election through illegal means.

    Again, you and others keep acting like what Trump has done is something trivial, something without long term consequence. And it is truly ignorant to do that. It's a lot like watching teenagers laugh at the warning from adults that playing in the quarry is dangerous. Then, of course, the only thing that will sober them up is if one of them dies or is seriously hurt.

    You'd think that being adults you would have learned about the folly of that sort of a mindset. But apparently not.
    He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me."

    "So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets"

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