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  • Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
    If Vindman wasn't too cowardly to blow the whistle himself then he should have worked within his chain of command, not leaked privileged information to an unauthorized third-party. Trump has every right, one might even say moral obligation to remove an admitted leaker from the White House.
    Vindman testified under oath that he never leaked the call to anyone outside the chain of command. He spoke to two people within the chain of command, two people with "the need to know" one being George Kent and the other not revealed by instruction of his attorney. You are merely speculating.

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    • Originally posted by JimLamebrain View Post
      Vindman testified under oath that he never leaked the call to anyone outside the chain of command. He spoke to two people within the chain of command, two people with "the need to know" one being George Kent and the other not revealed by instruction of his attorney. You are merely speculating.
      The second was Eric Ciaramella who is clearly not in Traitor Vindman's chain of command. He also lied under oath when he said he didn't know the identity of the whistle blower.
      Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
      But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
      Than a fool in the eyes of God


      From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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      • Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
        The second was Eric Ciaramella who is clearly not in Traitor Vindman's chain of command. He also lied under oath when he said he didn't know the identity of the whistle blower.
        Like I said, you're speculating and Vindman testified under oath to the contrary. So, carry on with your speculation.

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        • Originally posted by JimLamebrain View Post
          Like I said, you're speculating and Vindman testified under oath to the contrary. So, carry on with your speculation.
          Nope. We know who the whistle blower is, and we know Vindman leaked to him.

          https://www.realclearinvestigations....er_120996.html
          Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
          But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
          Than a fool in the eyes of God


          From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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          • Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
            Nope. We know who the whistle blower is, and we know Vindman leaked to him.

            https://www.realclearinvestigations....er_120996.html
            No you don’t; that is pure right wing nutter conspiracy theory. There is zero evidence in your favour.
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            “And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
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            • Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
              Nope. We know who the whistle blower is, and we know Vindman leaked to him.

              https://www.realclearinvestigations....er_120996.html
              Yup. Schiff's committee accidentally released some testimony without his name being redacted.

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              • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                Yup. Schiff's committee accidentally released some testimony without his name being redacted.
                The conspiracy theory is that Vindman leaked classified information in violation of the espionage act. The advice being given by respectable lawyers to those who hold that view is prove it or shut up.
                “I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
                “And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
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                • Originally posted by dirtfloor View Post
                  The conspiracy theory is that Vindman leaked classified information in violation of the espionage act. The advice being given by respectable lawyers to those who hold that view is prove it or shut up.
                  You know, there's a reason the Democrats were deadset against having Ciarmella testify.
                  Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                  But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                  Than a fool in the eyes of God


                  From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                  • Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                    You know, there's a reason the Democrats were deadset against having Ciarmella testify.
                    You know, there is a reason that people like you were deadset against having witnesses testify at the Senate trial, including witnesses for the defense. There is no evidence that Ciaramella was the whistleblower other than the assertions of right wing pundits, but they could have subpoenaed him to testify at trial to clear that whole issue up, yet they refused to do so. And those of us who aren't blinded by our bias know why that is.

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                    • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                      Yup. Schiff's committee accidentally released some testimony without his name being redacted.
                      What testimony woulod that be exactly?

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                      • Originally posted by JimLamebrain View Post
                        You know, there is a reason that people like you were deadset against having witnesses testify at the Senate trial...
                        What are you talking about? I would have loved to have seen Shifty Schiff, Quid Pro Joe, Hunter, and Ciarmella grilled by Trump's all-star defense team. What would have been bigger, Schiff's eyes bugging out of his head, or the sweat rolling down his face?

                        But it's a moot point since the House managers failed to convinced a majority of Senators that more evidence was needed to render a verdict of not guilty.
                        Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                        But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                        Than a fool in the eyes of God


                        From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                        • Originally posted by firstfloor View Post
                          What a pathetic response.
                          Exactly what your post deserved.
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                          • Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                            What are you talking about? I would have loved to have seen Shifty Schiff, Quid Pro Joe, Hunter, and Ciarmella grilled by Trump's all-star defense team. What would have been bigger, Schiff's eyes bugging out of his head, or the sweat rolling down his face?

                            But it's a moot point since the House managers failed to convinced a majority of Senators that more evidence was needed to render a verdict of not guilty.
                            House Managers argued for witnesses, republicans denied witnesses-case closed. Republicans didn't want the truth to come out for their naive constituents (that's you) to see, and so they made certain that you didn't see.

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                            • Andrew McCabe will not be charged.
                              What a Trumpian witch hunt (for real) that was!
                              May God bless Andrew McCabe.
                              “I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
                              “And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
                              “not all there” - you know who you are

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                              • Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
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