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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    Axelrod sums it up pretty well, I think, to CNN....



    Former Obama chief strategist David Axelrod said he attended a focus group with Democratic voters in Chicago on Friday, describing the gathering as "chilling" because impeachment "didn't come up" until more than an hour into the session despite it taking place amid the Senate trial of President Trump.

    Axelrod, who serves as a political analyst on CNN, shared about his experience during an interview with network anchor Erin Burnett on "OutFront" on Friday night, as Democratic House impeachment managers made their final arguments in the trial before White House lawyers begin their defense of the president on Saturday.

    "I was in a focus group this morning for the Institute for Politics here at the University of Chicago with some Chicago Democratic voters, and it was chilling to hear them talk about this," Axelrod said. "Because impeachment didn’t come up, no one volunteered it, for 80 minutes into the focus group, and we’re right in the middle of the trial."

    "When it came up, they said, you know, it's terrible what he did, the case has been proven, but we know how it's going to turn out," Axelrod continued. "So we're not really that interested, we're ready to move on."
    He should at least be happy that people in the focus group believe the case against Trump has been proven, because it means Democrats have successfully planted the lie in their consciousness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Man View Post
    He should at least be happy that people in the focus group believe the case against Trump has been proven, because it means Democrats have successfully planted the lie in their consciousness.
    Well, like the very serious and somber Aunt Nancy cackled, "he will be impeached forever".
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    Trump's A-Team is up today. They say that part of their argument will include the numerous pieces of exculpatory evidence the House managers "forgot" to present.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Man View Post
    Trump's A-Team is up today. They say that part of their argument will include the numerous pieces of exculpatory evidence the House managers "forgot" to present.
    Like a hurricane that happened that caused Trump to cancel the scheduled meeting he had in Poland with the Ukraine President? Don't you think the American people would have wanted to know that Trump kept his promise to put America first?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Man View Post
    He should at least be happy that people in the focus group believe the case against Trump has been proven, because it means Democrats have successfully planted the lie in their consciousness.
    Look at how many still believe that Trump colluded with Putin/Russia. Not just here but IIRC something like +70% Democrats were still saying that Mueller had found collusion even after the release of the Mueller Report and his testimony before Congress.

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    Senator Joni Ernst talking about today's defense presentation:

    "I thought today was an incredible two hours, and within two hours, I thought that the White House counsel and their team entirely shredded the case that has been presented by the House managers. What we heard today was very concise; it was full of truths and facts, as presented by the House managers’ own witnesses. It was not filled with half-truths and personal stories.

    "What we saw today was factual, relevant to what is going on in the Senate, and it points out that there have been a lot of half-truths promulgated by the House managers and absolutely pushed by the media as well."

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...-in-two-hours/

    And it seems Shifty Schiff's lie that the Trump administration threatened Republicans saying that their heads would be on pikes if they refused to support the President is going over about as well as you'd expect:

    Republican senators, including Sen. Susan Collins (R-ME), were taken aback. Collins reportedly shook her head and said, “That’s not true,” while Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-AK), another Republican Democrats hope to win over to push for witnesses, said, “That’s where he lost me.”

    “Not only have I never heard the ‘head on the pike’ line but also I know of no Republican senator who has been threatened in any way by anyone in the administration,” Collins said, according to multiple reports...

    “That is completely totally false, and all of us were shaking our heads, like where did that story come from, and Adam Schiff just kept saying it,” Sen. James Lankford (R-OK) said after the closing arguments.

    “The whole room was visibly upset on our side of it. … That’s insulting and demeaning,” he added.

    Sen. John Barrasso (R-WY) also denied that any Republican received that threat and added that Schiff “offended every Republican senator”...

    Sen. Jim Risch (R-ID) was also overheard saying, “That’s not true,” according to the Hill.

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...d-pike-threat/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Man View Post
    Senator Joni Ernst talking about today's defense presentation:

    "I thought today was an incredible two hours, and within two hours, I thought that the White House counsel and their team entirely shredded the case that has been presented by the House managers. What we heard today was very concise; it was full of truths and facts, as presented by the House managers’ own witnesses. It was not filled with half-truths and personal stories.

    "What we saw today was factual, relevant to what is going on in the Senate, and it points out that there have been a lot of half-truths promulgated by the House managers and absolutely pushed by the media as well."

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...-in-two-hours/

    And it seems Shifty Schiff's lie that the Trump administration threatened Republicans saying that their heads would be on pikes if they refused to support the President is going over about as well as you'd expect:

    Republican senators, including Sen. Susan Collins (R-ME), were taken aback. Collins reportedly shook her head and said, “That’s not true,” while Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-AK), another Republican Democrats hope to win over to push for witnesses, said, “That’s where he lost me.”

    “Not only have I never heard the ‘head on the pike’ line but also I know of no Republican senator who has been threatened in any way by anyone in the administration,” Collins said, according to multiple reports...

    “That is completely totally false, and all of us were shaking our heads, like where did that story come from, and Adam Schiff just kept saying it,” Sen. James Lankford (R-OK) said after the closing arguments.

    “The whole room was visibly upset on our side of it. … That’s insulting and demeaning,” he added.

    Sen. John Barrasso (R-WY) also denied that any Republican received that threat and added that Schiff “offended every Republican senator”...

    Sen. Jim Risch (R-ID) was also overheard saying, “That’s not true,” according to the Hill.

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...d-pike-threat/
    I bet, when the dust settles, you're going to find all kinda of evidence of Collusion between Trump and Schiff.

    With enemies like Schiff, who needs friends?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    Well, she's Catholic and she prays a lot.


    Really thinking about that trip to your neck of the woods to buy you a pint and help you see the truth.
    You might also enjoy a visit to His Majesty’s Theatre:
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    Here are the six key facts presented by the defense:

    1. The transcript proves President Trump didn't condition military aid or a meeting on anything.

    "The paused security assistance funds aren't even mentioned on the call," Purpura said.

    2. Ukrainian officials said they never felt pressured into investigating former Vice President Joe Biden or his son, Hunter, for corruption. They also said quid pro quo never took place.

    3. President Zelensky and other Ukrainian officials were unaware of the paused military aide.

    "The security assistance was paused until the end of August, over a month after the July 25th call," Purpura said.

    4. None of the Democrats' witnesses say President Trump tied an investigation into the Bidens to the military aid or a meeting.

    5. "The security assistance flowed on September 11th and a presidential meeting took place on September 25, without the Ukrainian government announcing any investigation," Purpura said.

    6. President Trump has been a strong supporter of Ukraine.

    "The Democrats' blind eye to impeach the president does not and cannot change the fact, as attested to by the Democrats' own witnesses, that President Trump has been a better friend and supporter of Ukraine than his predecessor," Purpura explained. "Those are the facts."

    Isn't it convenient that the Democrats left out these tidbits?

    https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bethba...-case-n2560099
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    Fruman recording: Why did Trump agree to get rid of Yovanovitch as early as April 2018?
    The plot thickens.
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