The Impeachment Trial

[Cow Poke]

“Nine months left to go, the people should judge. We are a republic, we are based on the will of the people — the people should judge,” Feinstein said Tuesday, after the president’s team finished a three-day presentation in his defense. “That was my view and it still is my view.”

Perhaps a trial balloon, or perhaps signalling other Dems "it's OK to think about letting this go".

[seanD]

Right... Wikipedia. How about a reliable source?

For one thing, Shokin had executed a raid on Burisma's president which prompted Hunter to contact the Obama administration, so it was an active investigation. A month later, daddu shows up and says, "If you want the money, you'll fire the prosecutor who's messing with my boy."

https://johnsolomonreports.com/the-u...merica-to-see/

The go-to counter argument: "Solomon is a Russian stooge, peddling Russian propaganda."

[Mountain Man]

I couldn't care less if they are questioned under oath, but that would have nothing to do with whether Trump abused his power so have no place in this trial.

Trump's defense team disagrees, and they presented an excellent argument that the Bidens should be investigated. So now the Democrats have to weigh whether it's worth it to call Bolton in exchange for the defense putting Hunter on the stand.

[rogue06]

Perhaps a trial balloon, or perhaps signalling other Dems "it's OK to think about letting this go".

Like Doug Jones (D-AL), who beat Roy Moore in a special election to finish Jeff Sessions' term in the Senate. He is up for reelection and looks like he's trying to split the difference by saying that found "some of the arguments made by President Donald Trump's counsel 'persuasive' and highlighted concerns he has over the second article of impeachment." The second article deals with obstruction.

He doesn't seem to grasp that if he votes for one article and not the other the voters will not make a distinction. He'll have voted for impeachment.

Joe Manchin (D-WV) has also been mentioned, but he won't be up for reelection until 2024. Still his state is deep red.

[JimL]

Jim, it has been LEGEND that Biden's participation on the board of Burisma is nothing but corruption. There simply hasn't been an incredibly partisan group of politicians committed to destroying his life over it.

Again, irrelevant to the issue. If the DOJ felt the need to open an investigation then they should do so.

How do you know that, Jim? Besides LiberalTalkingPointsForDummies, how do you know that the Biden situation wasn't part of the corruption that needed investigated?

Ah, I know --- because it doesn't serve the purpose of Orange Man Bad!

Because, as above, had the U.S. wanted to actually investigate Hunter Biden they should have done so. That is not what happened here. And btw, even if Trump actually wanted an investigation, he wouldn't have wanted it publicly announced on CNN. You don't announce the opening of an investigation, unless of course you have ulterior motives!

[rogue06]

Trump's defense team disagrees, and they presented an excellent argument that the Bidens should be investigated. So now the Democrats have to weigh whether it's worth it to call Bolton in exchange for the defense putting Hunter on the stand.

Most would likely put Biden's neck in a noose if they thought they had a real good chance of taking Trump down as well. Maybe even just a better than average shot.

[JimL]

The go-to counter argument: "Solomon is a Russian stooge, peddling Russian propaganda."

No, Solomon is a Trumpian stooge, and was in on the whole Ukrainian scheme.

[DivineOb]

Perhaps a trial balloon, or perhaps signalling other Dems "it's OK to think about letting this go".

Nope, just more wishful thinking from you guys.

The LA Times misunderstood what I said today. Before the trial I said I'd keep an open mind. Now that both sides made their cases, it’s clear the president’s actions were wrong. He withheld vital foreign assistance for personal political gain. That can’t be allowed to stand.

[Mountain Man]

Most would likely put Biden's neck in a noose if they thought they had a real good chance of taking Trump down as well. Maybe even just a better than average shot.

The problem with taking down Biden is that he could very well drag Obama down with him, and the Democrat party would never risk that. That's why Trump mentioning Biden in his phone call got them so riled up. As the saying goes, you see the most flak when you're over the target.

[JimL]

Right... Wikipedia. How about a reliable source?

For one thing, Shokin had executed a raid on Burisma's president which prompted Hunter to contact the Obama administration, so it was an active investigation. A month later, daddu shows up and says, "If you want the money, you'll fire the prosecutor who's messing with my boy."

https://johnsolomonreports.com/the-u...merica-to-see/

Solomon is a known hack. According to Shokins own deputy, Vitaly Kasko, there was no ongoing investigation into Burisma in 2015-2016 at the time when VP Biden was pressuring Ukraine. And according to Daria Kaleniuk, the Executive Director of Ukraines "Anti-Corruption Action Center, Shokin was not investigating Burisma, he was fired because he failed to investigate, and not only Burisma.

[Mountain Man]

Nope, just more wishful thinking from you guys.

Feinstein has a strange habit of clearly saying one thing, claiming she was misunderstood, and then "clarifying" by saying the exact opposite. What's going on in her head?

[Cow Poke]

Nope, just more wishful thinking from you guys.

Not wishful thinking at all -- it was just a guess. The fact remains, it's HIGHLY unlikely that Trump will be removed from office, so all of this that's going on is just partisan politics.

It has been since the beginning.

[Cow Poke]

Again, irrelevant to the issue.....

Orange Man Bad --- everything else is irrelevant.

Got it!

[JimL]

Trump's defense team disagrees, and they presented an excellent argument that the Bidens should be investigated. So now the Democrats have to weigh whether it's worth it to call Bolton in exchange for the defense putting Hunter on the stand.

Fine by me, I'd call their bluff, which is all it is, because the one issue has nothing to do with the other.

[oxmixmudd]

Right... Wikipedia. How about a reliable source?

For one thing, Shokin had executed a raid on Burisma's president which prompted Hunter to contact the Obama administration, so it was an active investigation. A month later, daddu shows up and says, "If you want the money, you'll fire the prosecutor who's messing with my boy."

https://johnsolomonreports.com/the-u...merica-to-see/

Right ... Solomon