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"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostDeclassification isn't that easy. The president can't just snap his fingers and say, "Declassified!" There's a process that must be followed with all relevant agencies having a say in whether or not it's safe to do so."I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill
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Originally posted by Watermelon View PostQuestion is then why didnt Zelensky announce investigations to keep Trump happy?Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostDeclassification isn't that easy. The president can't just snap his fingers and say, "Declassified!" There's a process that must be followed with all relevant agencies having a say in whether or not it's safe to do so.
--Sam"I wonder about the trees. / Why do we wish to bear / Forever the noise of these / More than another noise / Robert Frost, "The Sound of Trees"
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostEr, no. It makes a lot of sense. Bolton's book is being vetted to make sure he's not saying anything that's unsuitable for release to the public. Until that process is complete, he can't know what he may or may not say - that's why the book is being vetted!
And, as previously noted, the whole point is moot, because the funds were released prior to the deadline without any quid pro quo having taken place. Feel free to keep screaming about it, however. All that crying "Wolf!" is bound to do some good, right?
"The bank robber walked out of the bank before the clerk handed him the bag of money" is one heckuva defense you got there.
--Sam"I wonder about the trees. / Why do we wish to bear / Forever the noise of these / More than another noise / Robert Frost, "The Sound of Trees"
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostImpeachment has been weaponized to attempt to get rid of anybody "the other side" doesn't like. Impeachment has become a joke, as prophesied by the honorable Chuck Schumer many moons ago.
Certainly, the two party system does not play well with some aspects of the constitution, including impeachment. The problem is not abuse of impeachment so much as a failure of Senators to do their duty when confronted by a lawless POTUS.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostWhich is denied by everyone directly involved, including Ukraine.
Again, this is a case where the evidence is all around you, but because you don't have an actual recording of Trump saying "I want dirt on Biden, and I'm not letting that money go till Zelinsky gives it to me" you hold up this fantasy 'there could be some other reason' as if it had any possibility of existing, which it doesn't.
And the hard evidence from YEARS of interacting with all of you, there is not another political figure on this planet you would even consider extending that sort of 'benefit of the doubt' to given the circumstances.
And that is why it all goes south and there is an impasse. Extending that sort of 'benefit of the doubt' to such a person boggles the mind. This is not the Pope, not Billy Graham, not Mother Theresa. And even they, given the evidence we see, would not deserve it.My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by firstfloor View PostI see no evidence for that.
Certainly, the two party system does not play well with some aspects of the constitution, including impeachment.
The problem is not abuse of impeachment so much as a failure of Senators to do their duty when confronted by a lawless POTUS.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostYou're calling Schumer a LIAR?!?!
Which is why it should only be employed in EXTREME cases where there is substantial bipartisan and public support.
Rachel told you to say that, didn't she?
Bottom line, as Benjamin Franklin said:
And we are well on our way.My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostYou're calling Schumer a LIAR?!?!
Which is why it should only be employed in EXTREME cases where there is substantial bipartisan and public support.
Rachel told you to say that, didn't she?
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Originally posted by Sam View PostTrump revealed classified information to Russian officials in the Oval Office in May 2017 and the defense was that the President can declassify anything he wants at any time. So either that's true or Trump violated classification laws at the beginning of his term.
--SamSome may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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