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Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View PostAnd it was largely Christians who ended those things.“He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostThey were ended only after several centuries as the social values that accepted them changed. Morals and ethics evolve and vary to a degree from culture to culture over time.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Jim B. View PostI think it has to do with what's perceived to be a 'public good' or in the 'public interest' as opposed to what's a private good or mainly a private matter. So the boundary line is somewhat fluid and will change with time. For instance, homosexuality was once viewed as a matter of public morality and public decency and society thought it had a compelling interest in controlling it. With time it came to be seen as a private matter between consenting adults. A lot of it has to do with changing opinions about factual matters; for instance that homosexuality came to be seen factually in a different light, less as a deliberate moral choice or set of choices and more as a biological pre-disposition, at least among males.
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Originally posted by seer View PostNonsense Tass, there were very early Christians that were against slavery and the reason what it changed in the West was directly because of Christians.“He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostMorals and ethics evolve and vary to a degree from culture to culture over time. There have been times when slavery was the norm in predominantly Christian societies and times when racial discrimination was the norm – in the majority Christian Deep Southern states for example. And there have been times when such beliefs were anathema among Christians and society in general.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View PostMore bigoted nonsense. Most societies for most of history accepted or practiced slavery. Christian or otherwise.
And it was Christians who put an end to it in the West,
even though it is still practiced in non-christian nations today.“He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostNo, it was said societies, “Christian and otherwise” that put an end to it in the West. Although, with considerable resistance in the USA by Christians in the deep south - along with the Jim Crow apartheid Laws. Apartheid was similarly maintained by the Dutch Reform Church in South Africa until relatively recently.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View PostNo, in the West it was Christians who lead the abolition movements - period.“He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostThis assertion is demonstrably wrong. Christians have a long history of reading the bible so that virtually any perspective on current issues will find some support in the bible. This has been true of slavery and racial discrimination for centuries in the US southern states and elsewhere.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View PostWhat is untrue Tass? That Christians lead the abolition movement in the West? Are you joking, or just dishonest?Last edited by Tassman; 02-01-2020, 09:26 PM.“He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostSOME Christians were at the forefront of the abolition movement in the West, some were not, e.g. in the US deep south and with the apartheid of the Jim Crow laws. So, your blanket assertion that “Christians lead the abolition movement in the West” is factually wrong. Christians, as they have throughout history, merely reflected the divergent social values of the day.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostSOME Christians were at the forefront of the abolition movement in the West, some were not, e.g. in the US deep south and with the apartheid of the Jim Crow laws. So, your blanket assertion that “Christians lead the abolition movement in the West” is factually wrong. Christians, as they have throughout history, merely reflected the divergent social values of the day.
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostHe didn't say all or every Christian and yet the fact remains that it was Christians who led the abolition movement. It is no coincidence that slavery was abolished in areas where Christianity held sway while still being acceptable in parts of the world where it didn't.“He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.
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Originally posted by seer View PostAnd it was largely Christians who ended those things.
The casket of Emett Till was kept open because of its shock value. The Greensboro sit in by the A and T Four was staged, they did not sit down for so long because they wanted lunch.
The NAACP was distrusted by many, including the FBI, as a communist front because many communists were drawn to civil rights.
The resistance to civil rights was dominated by Christians and those allied with Christianity.
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