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Here in the Philosophy forum we will talk about all the "why" questions. We'll have conversations about the way in which philosophy and theology and religion interact with each other. Metaphysics, ontology, origins, truth? They're all fair game so jump right in and have some fun! But remember...play nice!
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Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View PostSo what? According your own religion slavery was not a violation of Spiritual laws back in the day. But again, I'm glad your Prophet followed the good example of Christian abolitionists.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostYou of course do not accept the progressive revelation and spiritual evolution of humanity as the physical evolution. Then you have a sere problem objecting to slavery based on your scripture. Not mine.
Eph 6:9 "And, masters, do the same to them. Stop threatening them, for you know that both of you have the same Master in heaven, and with him there is no partiality."
Col 4:1 "Masters, treat your slaves justly and fairly, for you know that you also have a Master in heaven."Last edited by seer; 02-23-2020, 03:42 PM.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View PostShuny, where did I ever objective to slavery in general? I objected to slavery based on kidnapping, since man stealing is a sin in both Testaments. And slavery in the West was largely based on kidnapping. And the fact that slave holders often treated slaves badly violating New Testament principles.
Eph 6:9 "And, masters, do the same to them. Stop threatening them, for you know that both of you have the same Master in heaven, and with him there is no partiality."
Col 4:1 "Masters, treat your slaves justly and fairly, for you know that you also have a Master in heaven."
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostIt is very sad and tragic that you conditionally accept slavery in one form or another.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View PostAccording to whom? You?
If you are considering the Biblical standard. Foreign slaves were captured, bought, sold and owned including their ancestors.Last edited by shunyadragon; 02-23-2020, 06:39 PM.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostAccording to anyone with an acceptable contemporary international standard of morals and ethics, and of course the Baha'i spiritual laws which you reject.
If you are considering the Biblical standard. Foreign slaves were captured, bought, sold and owned including their ancestors.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post. . . which hand?Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostThroughout most of its history the Christian Church opposed women's suffrage on its belief that a woman's place is in the home.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View PostShuny, the point is slavery is a temporal condition. Scripture is much more concerned with our eternal estate. A slave can be free in Christ, and a free man, like yourself, can be in bondage in sin and lost. Temporal slavery is a secondary consideration.
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Originally posted by seer View PostThere is nothing in Scripture that says a woman can not vote or have a career
and yes I think that being a homemaker and mother is the woman's highest calling.
As far as other mores of the day like abortion, gay marriage, contraception .
or convenient divorce the Catholic Church is dead set against
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostScripture also is the standard of morality and ethics, which you are avoiding to suit your agenda. The fact that your view reflects and ancient view and the Baha'i view which reflects the morals and ethics of the contemporary world demonstrates the progressive Revelation of the spiritual advancement of humanity concerning the standards of the world.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostAnd yet scripture was invoked in Christian countries for centuries to deny women the vote and keep them from positions of leadership - just as it was invoked to justify slave ownership.
This will change in time as the Christian church comes in to line with the majority opinion of its own members. It has already in many instances.
Just as well Donald is an Evangelical then and not a Catholic, given his two divorces and three marriages.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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