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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Man View Post
    "Only those with something to hide would object to an intrusive and legally questionable investigation!"
    In what way could the calling of first-hand witnesses to testify under oath at a trial be construed as "intrusive and legally questionable"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by oxmixmudd View Post
    Nobody in his right mind wants anything less than a full accounting of what happened... except those hiding their bad deeds.

    I'm always still in trouble again

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    I'm of various minds.

    Mainly, I believe this travesty should have been dismissed outright as Constitutionally invalid.

    Failing that, it should have been remanded to the House for a do-over, where THEY do their job of subpoenaing witnesses and fighting for court approval.

    But realistically, with cowardly Senators like Collins and Murkowski, and the TDSified cultist Mittens, neither of those was ever really possible. So we're stuck fighting over rules and witnesses. We have to hope Cocaine Mitch can at least wrangle his cats well enough to get "quid pro quo" in terms of witnesses, *and* that POTUS makes good on his promise to invoke Executive Privilege.
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    I think the magic words in that survey were "with firsthand knowledge" - so far we haven't heard from anyone under oath with firsthand knowledge. The only ones who have that are Trump and Zelensky. And if he is guilty, anyone Trump told directly what his nefarious plan was. I think I would go for those witnesses. I would also like to see the whistlblower.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oxmixmudd View Post
    Paint your excuses however you want, trump is guilty , trying to hide it, and the gop is helping him hide it, with the support of people thinking just like you.
    “Trump is so guilty that we need to keep digging till we find evidence that he is guilty!!!”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    I think the magic words in that survey were "with firsthand knowledge" - so far we haven't heard from anyone under oath with firsthand knowledge. The only ones who have that are Trump and Zelensky. And if he is guilty, anyone Trump told directly what his nefarious plan was. I think I would go for those witnesses. I would also like to see the whistlblower.
    Like most surveys, we don't know the exact question or how it was setup, so the results are largely meaningless. But as I take another look at the story, it asks "whether witnesses with firsthand knowledge should be allowed to testify". Well, sure, a witness should be allowed to testify if their testimony is relevant and they are issued with a lawful subpoena, but I disagree that the Senate should or has any reason to issue such subpoenas. If the Democrats can't make their case based on the evidence gathered during their one-sided inquiry where they gave themselves every possible advantage then the Senate should dismiss the charges or vote for full acquittal.
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    I want witnesses too. Hunter Biden will suffice.


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    Quote Originally Posted by lilpixieofterror View Post
    “Trump is so guilty that we need to keep digging till we find evidence that he is guilty!!!”

    Stalin would be proud, comrade.
    Machiavelli would be proudest - and of you an MM and others. The end justifies the means. If we have to excuse adultery, racism, abusive attitudes toward women, and even the coercion and bribery of foreign countries as he enlists them to interfere in our elections, so be it. Just so long as we get some conservative judges on the bench, its all ok.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oxmixmudd View Post
    Machiavelli would be proudest - and of you an MM and others. The end justifies the means. If we have to excuse adultery, racism, abusive attitudes toward women, and even the coercion and bribery of foreign countries as he enlists them to interfere in our elections, so be it. Just so long as we get some conservative judges on the bench, its all ok.
    That’s a great list of opinions and worst assumptions, but I know it’s totally pointless to even bother with you, since your mind is already made up, but assumptions and opinions, isn’t evidence. Besides, democrats could care less about abusive attitudes towards women, since they still make excuses for LBJ and Clinton’s much bigger and more documented abuses. Of course, you’re welcome to grovel and submit to your liberal overlords if you so desire, but I’ll pass on submission and your list of unsupported opinions.

    He’s guilty, you just need to keep digging till you find all this evidence of guilt and if he objects to being probed, it’s just more evidence of guilt! Right comrade?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill the Cat View Post
    I want witnesses too. Hunter Biden will suffice.
    You are assuming he would tell the truth under oath.

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