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    New project: MAME arcade machine

    I have this Raspberry Pi that I haven't really done much with and found out about the RetroPie project that you can install to basically make the thing into a universal emulator machine. I have also found the various old Arcade ROMs on Archive.org so I am assuming they are all public domain. The arcade emulator is called MAME - they have versions for PCs too.

    I think I am going to try it. I would love to build it into an arcade cabinet, but I have zero skills at woodworking. They do have various kits for sale but they are pretty expensive. So I will probably just have a mess on my desk instead :-)

    Has anyone else done something like this? I am finding out that it is pretty complicated. Different versions of MAME (or clones) need different versions of the ROMs. And the ROMs can be standalone (non-merged) or dependent on "parent" ROMs (like say US Pac-Man could be dependent on the Japanese version, so you would need both ROMs in order to get the US version to work)

    I thought I would start a thread if anyone wants to discuss it, have any hints for me, etc.

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    I haven't done anything with MAME, but I have tinkered with some emulators in the past. Depending on the machine/rom you are trying to play you might need a BIOS, and afaik those are illegal to distribute. Short of some freeware games most video games are not public domain. Which honestly sucks as most of the old arcade titles either have no owners, or their owners have no interest in using their IP's.

    Personally I'm wanting to emulate my PSP since the analog stick doesn't work right anymore, and based on some sources it isn't something a can of pressurized air can fix. Problem for me is finding a way to either rip the UMD discs to my PC, or finding ROMS of games I own. I don't know of any safe places for the latter since emuparadise stopped distributing stuff after Nintendo was going to bring a lawsuit against them, and CoolRom is supposedly infested with adware and viruses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cerebrum123 View Post
    I haven't done anything with MAME, but I have tinkered with some emulators in the past. Depending on the machine/rom you are trying to play you might need a BIOS, and afaik those are illegal to distribute. Short of some freeware games most video games are not public domain. Which honestly sucks as most of the old arcade titles either have no owners, or their owners have no interest in using their IP's.

    Personally I'm wanting to emulate my PSP since the analog stick doesn't work right anymore, and based on some sources it isn't something a can of pressurized air can fix. Problem for me is finding a way to either rip the UMD discs to my PC, or finding ROMS of games I own. I don't know of any safe places for the latter since emuparadise stopped distributing stuff after Nintendo was going to bring a lawsuit against them, and CoolRom is supposedly infested with adware and viruses.
    One of the reasons I decided to go with MAME is because apparently those ROMs are public domain now (archive.org is the "wayback machine" and is a legitimate organization that I don't think would host illegal ROMs) and they are pretty easy for modern CPUs to emulate.

    I do think the RetroPie can emulate the PSP. [looking...]

    Yep.

    https://github.com/RetroPie/RetroPie...ported-Systems

    Now I have no idea where to get the ROMs for that, but before I found the full mame romsets at archive.org I was trying to download each game from those various sites. I found out that if you avoid the big obvious "DOWNLOAD HERE" button there is usually a smaller "slower" or "alternate" link that you can use. The big download button will try to download an EXE file which of course will have malware and such in it. But the "slower/alternate" links are usually zip files which you can scan for viruses and don't contain any exe files, just the ROM and accompanying files. I didn't find any viruses or malware in the mame ROMs I downloaded. But those sites are really slow too. Like 4K/second slow. I think they are hosted on people's personal computers. There is one called Vimm's Lair that seems to have a lot of stuff, and none in exe files, but it is super slow. I didn't try any console roms because I don't own any originals.

    Also I read that the Raspberry Pi (I have the 3B) can't emulate the more modern consoles all that well, but that retropie can be installed on a PC running linux. And most of the emulators are available on windows too. I was just trying to find a good use for my Raspberry Pi and they are cheap ($35)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    One of the reasons I decided to go with MAME is because apparently those ROMs are public domain now (archive.org is the "wayback machine" and is a legitimate organization that I don't think would host illegal ROMs) and they are pretty easy for modern CPUs to emulate.

    I do think the RetroPie can emulate the PSP. [looking...]

    Yep.

    https://github.com/RetroPie/RetroPie...ported-Systems

    Now I have no idea where to get the ROMs for that, but before I found the full mame romsets at archive.org I was trying to download each game from those various sites. I found out that if you avoid the big obvious "DOWNLOAD HERE" button there is usually a smaller "slower" or "alternate" link that you can use. The big download button will try to download an EXE file which of course will have malware and such in it. But the "slower/alternate" links are usually zip files which you can scan for viruses and don't contain any exe files, just the ROM and accompanying files. I didn't find any viruses or malware in the mame ROMs I downloaded. But those sites are really slow too. Like 4K/second slow. I think they are hosted on people's personal computers. There is one called Vimm's Lair that seems to have a lot of stuff, and none in exe files, but it is super slow. I didn't try any console roms because I don't own any originals.

    Also I read that the Raspberry Pi (I have the 3B) can't emulate the more modern consoles all that well, but that retropie can be installed on a PC running linux. And most of the emulators are available on windows too. I was just trying to find a good use for my Raspberry Pi and they are cheap ($35)
    Archive.org has the PSP ISO files, so I will have to try downloading the games I own.

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    Oh I just found this.

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    And Archive.org actually has an online mame emulator where you can play all the various arcade game in your browser...
    https://archive.org/details/internetarcade

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    Quote Originally Posted by mossrose View Post
    You had me at raspberry pie!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raspberry_Pi
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Melody Maker View Post
    It's pretty neat. and the "hard drive" is a micro SD card. So you can have multiple setups, and just swap out the SD card. Like I currently have linux running on it, with a graphical interface and several programs. And when I do the retropie arcade I will just have it on a second SD card and swap it out.

    and only $35.

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