Bitter Nancy...

[JimL]

You got it all wrong, Pix --- it was Obama --- he's still running the economy and gets all the credit.

That's correct. Obama turned the economy around from a near depression which continued on its upward trajectory on into the Trump administration and Trump hasn't had enough time to destroy the Obama economic climb just yet, though he has unnecessarily raised the debt once again. Give him another 4 years, he'll get there, though like Putin, he'll make himself filthy rich in the process.

[Cow Poke]

And, right on cue, LiberalTalkingPointForDummies....

That's correct. Obama....

[rogue06]

That's correct. Obama turned the economy around from a near depression which continued on its upward trajectory on into the Trump administration and Trump hasn't had enough time to destroy the Obama economic climb just yet, though he has unnecessarily raised the debt once again. Give him another 4 years, he'll get there, though like Putin, he'll make himself filthy rich in the process.

[JimL]

And, right on cue, LiberalTalkingPointForDummies....

Yes, I know the truth hurts, CP, but facts is facts and they're proven in the stats.

[JimL]

With a Russian loan, no doubt.

[Cow Poke]

Yes, I know the truth hurts, CP,

Jim, you're so deluded by the LiberalTalkingPointsForDummies that you wouldn't know the truth if it bit you in the butt.

but facts is facts and they're proven in the stats.

You're cute.

[rogue06]

Jim, you're so deluded by the LiberalTalkingPointsForDummies that you wouldn't know the truth if it bit you in the butt.



You're cute.

Little jimmy reminds me of a certain quote I've heard attributed to the writer Edward Flaherty:

You couldn't get a clue during the clue mating season in a field full of horny clues if you smeared your body with clue musk and did the clue mating dance

[rogue06]

That's correct. Obama turned the economy around from a near depression which continued on its upward trajectory on into the Trump administration and Trump hasn't had enough time to destroy the Obama economic climb just yet, though he has unnecessarily raised the debt once again. Give him another 4 years, he'll get there, though like Putin, he'll make himself filthy rich in the process.

Obama didn't "turn the economy around" but instead was content to continue driving along in the ditch and telling us to get used to it because this was the new normal.

[Cow Poke]

Obama didn't "turn the economy around" but instead was content to continue driving along in the ditch and telling us to get used to it because this was the new normal.

Why is that little detail always excluded?

[seer]

That's correct. Obama turned the economy around from a near depression which continued on its upward trajectory on into the Trump administration and Trump hasn't had enough time to destroy the Obama economic climb just yet, though he has unnecessarily raised the debt once again. Give him another 4 years, he'll get there, though like Putin, he'll make himself filthy rich in the process.

I will ask again Jim what business friendly policies that spurred job growth did Obama put into place? Please be specific.

[Mountain Man]

Obama didn't "turn the economy around" but instead was content to continue driving along in the ditch and telling us to get used to it because this was the new normal.

It's strange how the economy took off like a rocket once Trump started implementing his new policies, yet liberals want to give the credit to Obama.

[JimL]

I will ask again Jim what business friendly policies that spurred job growth did Obama put into place? Please be specific.

I believe I already cited that for you seer, but the Obama stimulus, Tarp, financial reform, the auto bailout et al were all factors contributing to to job growth.
The unemployment rate under Obaqma went from 10% to 4.7%, Under Trump unemployment decreased by 1% to 3.7%.

Obama had 6 consecutive years of job growth after losing millions of jobs just as he came into office.
The last 3 years of the Obama administration job growth averaged 224,000 jobs a month, compared to the first 3 years of Trump where job growth averaged 194,000 jobs a month, that's 34,000 less jobs per month than Obama.

The last 2 years of the Obama Administration wages increased on average by $4,800, compared to Trumps first 2 years in which wages increased by $1,400.

And then of course you have the stock market which Trump is always touting even though it has little to do with the overall economy, more than half the country are not even invested in the stock market. But, regardless, in the 8 years of Obama the Stock market rose by 150%, while the first 3 years of Trump it's up 40%.

So yeah, Obama didn't leave Trump a mess, like Trump likes to say, he inherited a good economy, and one that continues on that same trajectory. But Trump, even though he promised to reduce it, and being that he inherited a good economy to work with, he still increased the debt by $2 trillion in his first 3 years. Don't be a mindless cult member, simply believing what the liar and chief tells you. Look it up?

[seer]

I believe I already cited that for you seer, but the Obama stimulus, Tarp, financial reform, the auto bailout et al were all factors contributing to to job growth.
The unemployment rate under Obaqma went from 10% to 4.7%, Under Trump unemployment decreased by 1% to 3.7%.

Obama had 6 consecutive years of job growth after losing millions of jobs just as he came into office.
The last 3 years of the Obama administration job growth averaged 224,000 jobs a month, compared to the first 3 years of Trump where job growth averaged 194,000 jobs a month, that's 34,000 less jobs per month than Obama.

The last 2 years of the Obama Administration wages increased on average by $4,800, compared to Trumps first 2 years in which wages increased by $1,400.

And then of course you have the stock market which Trump is always touting even though it has little to do with the overall economy, more than half the country are not even invested in the stock market. But, regardless, in the 8 years of Obama the Stock market rose by 150%, while the first 3 years of Trump it's up 40%.

So yeah, Obama didn't leave Trump a mess, like Trump likes to say, he inherited a good economy, and one that continues on that same trajectory. But Trump, even though he promised to reduce it, and being that he inherited a good economy to work with, he still increased the debt by $2 trillion in his first 3 years. Don't be a mindless cult member, simply believing what the liar and chief tells you. Look it up?

Jim financial reform and auto bailout may have saved existing jobs, stimulus may have had a little effect, Bush passed Tarp not Obama. In Obama's last year the GDP was 1.6% it was going down. Obama did little for sustained growth. The job growth we did see was simply the natural result of coming out of a recession. And Jim we have a boom in energy production in this country creating thousands and thousands of jobs - was that Obama too?

[Cow Poke]

Jim financial reform and auto bailout may have saved existing jobs, stimulus may have had a little effect, Bush passed Tarp not Obama. In Obama's last year the GDP was 1.6% it was going down. Obama did little for sustained growth. The job growth we did see was simply the natural result of coming out of a recession.

Yeah, there's always some kind of recovery after a recession, just by virtue of how economics works. Obama's "recovery" was the worst and slowest in history.

Here are 7 facts that show Obama's Economic Recovery has been AWFUL:

1. The Obama recovery has had a record number of quarters where economic growth has been two percent or lower.
2. The average real GDP growth of recoveries rate prior to the Obama recovery was 4.3 percent.
3. The most recent labor participation rate was 62.7 percent, with slightly more than 94.5 million Americans out of the work force.
4. The number of jobs created under the Obama economy has not kept up with the working age population.
5. There has been a decline in business startups and investment.
6. There has also been a decline of real household family income.
7. There has also been a spike of Americans on food stamps.

[JimL]

Jim financial reform and auto bailout may have saved existing jobs, stimulus may have had a little effect, Bush passed Tarp not Obama. In Obama's last year the GDP was 1.6% it was going down. Obama did little for sustained growth. The job growth we did see was simply the natural result of coming out of a recession.

The job growth we do see is simply the natural result of its continued (224,000 new jobs a month) growth coming from the Obama years in which job growth was higher than the (194,000 per month) under Trump. You're just sticking your head in the sand so as not to see. That 224,000 jobs a month under Obama represents the last 3 years of his administration, the 194,000 a month represents the first 3 years of Trump. Overcome your bias!