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  • 2030 as Libs End of the World

    In 10 years, we hit the grand 2030 year. There is an interesting set of coincidences regarding that year.

    This is the year that Rep. Ocasio-Cortez fears as the deadline for giving up all forms of civilization in order to stave off the looming global warming catastrophe. This is coincidentally the year of the Agenda 30 plan, as the addendum to the Agenda 21 program. The programs are a plan for a new way of organizing humanity into regions ruled by government and subverting the concept of God-given rights.

    The most interesting and important aspect of this year is that we will be celebrating the 2000th anniversary of Christ's death and resurrection. I'm not predicting any great phenomena to happen as a consequence of reaching this anniversary. It still may be a moment to ponder on all that God has done and will be doing.

    I am suspect that AOC and the UN selected this year as a time to mock the Kingdom of God. It is as if the UN wants to counter the Kingdom of God by forming a government under the great rule like we have seen in the hands of man within the EU.

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    Originally posted by mikewhitney View Post
    I am suspect that AOC and the UN selected this year as a time to mock the Kingdom of God. It is as if the UN wants to counter the Kingdom of God by forming a government under the great rule like we have seen in the hands of man within the EU.
    That seems rather far-fetched. It's much more likely the year was chosen because round numbers are easy to remember. This reminds me of how Christians spent a lot of energy focusing on 2000 as a potential year for Christ's return, just because it's a round number.
    "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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    • #3
      I though Christ died in 33AD?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Sparko View Post
        I though Christ died in 33AD?
        Andreas Köstenberger thinks so:

        https://www.firstthings.com/web-excl.../april-3-ad-33
        "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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        • #5
          Originally posted by mikewhitney View Post
          a new way of organizing humanity into regions ruled by government
          So, um, yeah. We've actually had that for, hmm, I guess about 2500 years now, give or take.

          This is coincidentally the year of the Agenda 30 plan
          When I google Agenda 30 to try and work out what you're rambling about, I hit the UN's sustainable development goals. That appears to be a list of things like "Clean drinking water, economic growth, quality education" that they think it would be nice for the world to have. Given the UN has basically zero power to do anything, and gets ignored by all countries pretty much constantly, I suspect their list of goals will have zero effect in practice.

          But, for the record, was it the good education part of those goals that you're against?
          "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
          "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
          "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Starlight View Post
            So, um, yeah. We've actually had that for, hmm, I guess about 2500 years now, give or take.

            When I google Agenda 30 to try and work out what you're rambling about, I hit the UN's sustainable development goals. That appears to be a list of things like "Clean drinking water, economic growth, quality education" that they think it would be nice for the world to have. Given the UN has basically zero power to do anything, and gets ignored by all countries pretty much constantly, I suspect their list of goals will have zero effect in practice.

            But, for the record, was it the good education part of those goals that you're against?
            It sounds great. It sounds like things politicians always promise but never deliver.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
              That seems rather far-fetched. It's much more likely the year was chosen because round numbers are easy to remember...
              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
                Andreas Köstenberger thinks so:
                Hmmm. I always thought that Christ's life was not dated; or- it was 33 years without dates.

                So 1 bc was the year before his birth, and 1 ad was the year after his death. Jesus' ministry was in the unrecorded gap. ?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Ronson View Post
                  Hmmm. I always thought that Christ's life was not dated; or- it was 33 years without dates.

                  So 1 bc was the year before his birth, and 1 ad was the year after his death. Jesus' ministry was in the unrecorded gap. ?
                  There actually is no year between 1 BC and 1 AD. It goes directly from 1 BC to 1 AD.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Terraceth View Post
                    There actually is no year between 1 BC and 1 AD. It goes directly from 1 BC to 1 AD.
                    Then again, Eastern dating is weird, like a baby being born in "year 1", and then incrementing on the first day of the new year. If a baby is born in November, he/she is 1 year old, then on the 1st of the new year, he/she turns 2, even though we would say they are only 2 months old.
                    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Ronson View Post
                      Hmmm. I always thought that Christ's life was not dated; or- it was 33 years without dates.

                      So 1 bc was the year before his birth, and 1 ad was the year after his death. Jesus' ministry was in the unrecorded gap. ?
                      They experts apparently use various dates of events to calculate that our dating of Jesus' birth is off by a few years. I have seen it mentioned that Jesus was born in 4 BC and died in 33 AD. I don't think anyone really knows for sure. I just never heard 30 AD which seems to be what Mike was saying in the OP.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                        They experts apparently use various dates of events to calculate that our dating of Jesus' birth is off by a few years. I have seen it mentioned that Jesus was born in 4 BC and died in 33 AD. I don't think anyone really knows for sure. I just never heard 30 AD which seems to be what Mike was saying in the OP.
                        And there were a number of calendars in use at the time, so that complicates things as well.

                        This I know - He was born, He lived, He died, He lives again!!!
                        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                        • #13
                          Herod was still alive when Jesus was born, so that would place His birth around 6 BC to late 5 BC or early 4 BC. As for His death, AD 30 and AD 33 are the only years in which Passover could have fallen on a Sabbath. AD 30 seems to be the more likely year according to scholars. Particularly when Scripture says He was about age 30 when He began His ministry.
                          When I Survey....

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                            I though Christ died in 33AD?
                            Let's check with Mossy. Eyewitnesses are always welcomed in the discussion.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by mikewhitney View Post
                              Let's check with Mossy. Eyewitnesses are always welcomed in the discussion.
                              Start ducking now.

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