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  • #16
    Originally posted by mikewhitney View Post
    Let's check with Mossy. Eyewitnesses are always welcomed in the discussion.
    Word is that mossy was already long settled into what is now called Canuckistan having made the move by crossing from Scotland when they were a whole lot closer (Cretaceous).

    I'm always still in trouble again

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
      And there were a number of calendars in use at the time, so that complicates things as well.

      This I know - He was born, He lived, He died, He lives again!!!
      We had a great calendar when I was in school -- from a nerd's perspective. It was done with a line printer. It was three foot high with an image of Tommy Trojan.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Starlight View Post
        So, um, yeah. We've actually had that for, hmm, I guess about 2500 years now, give or take.

        When I google Agenda 30 to try and work out what you're rambling about, I hit the UN's sustainable development goals. That appears to be a list of things like "Clean drinking water, economic growth, quality education" that they think it would be nice for the world to have. Given the UN has basically zero power to do anything, and gets ignored by all countries pretty much constantly, I suspect their list of goals will have zero effect in practice.

        But, for the record, was it the good education part of those goals that you're against?
        Organizing humanity into regions is the tool of the antichrist...... And Trump currently has political leadership of this region! (government in and of itself not an evil thing, according to a Christian worldview, or for that matter, an atheist worldview, from what I understand of atheists)

        In fact, I would describe government is part of the natural order, built into the created order. Blame the Creator?

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        • #19
          Correctly dating the birth, ministry-beginning, and death of Jesus is vitally important! How else can creators of Superman movies properly present Kal-El as a messianic figure?
          Geislerminian Antinomian Kenotic Charispneumaticostal Gender Mutualist-Egalitarian.

          Beige Federalist.

          Nationalist Christian.

          "Everybody is somebody's heretic."

          Social Justice is usually the opposite of actual justice.

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          Would-be Grand Vizier of the Padishah Maxi-Super-Ultra-Hyper-Mega-MAGA King Trumpius Rex.

          Justice for Ashli Babbitt!

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          • #20
            Originally posted by simplicio View Post
            government in and of itself not an evil thing, according to a Christian worldview
            There's a few libertarian and theocratic Christians here who do seem to think all human government is a bad thing. There's also a tendency on this site among Christians to project extrabiblical modern ideas about freedom in politics back onto the bible.

            In fact, I would describe government is part of the natural order, built into the created order. Blame the Creator?
            Reminds me of something some guy once wrote... "Let every person be subject to the governing authorities; for there is no authority except from God, and those authorities that exist have been instituted by God."
            "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
            "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
            "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Ronson View Post
              Hmmm. I always thought that Christ's life was not dated; or- it was 33 years without dates.

              So 1 bc was the year before his birth, and 1 ad was the year after his death. Jesus' ministry was in the unrecorded gap. ?
              A.D. doesn't mean After Death, it means Anno Domini, i.e. The Year of the Lord, i.e. after Christ's birth. (Assuming you thought it meant After Death, which is what my mother told me when I was 5 to help me distinguish between it and B.C. because she thought I couldn't remember the Latin).

              This is the first time I've ever heard anyone say they thought the years of Christ's life were undated. Out of curiosity, where did you hear this?
              Curiosity never hurt anyone. It was stupidity that killed the cat.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by QuantaFille View Post
                A.D. doesn't mean After Death, it means Anno Domini, i.e. The Year of the Lord, i.e. after Christ's birth. (Assuming you thought it meant After Death, which is what my mother told me when I was 5 to help me distinguish between it and B.C. because she thought I couldn't remember the Latin).

                This is the first time I've ever heard anyone say they thought the years of Christ's life were undated. Out of curiosity, where did you hear this?
                I don't recall if I heard it anywhere.

                I consider all of those dates rather fuzzy anyway, especially with the calendar changes since then. But since the dates of Christ's ministry were backdated some time later, I don't see them as being very reliable.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Ronson View Post
                  I don't recall if I heard it anywhere.

                  I consider all of those dates rather fuzzy anyway, especially with the calendar changes since then. But since the dates of Christ's ministry were backdated some time later, I don't see them as being very reliable.
                  I have a hard enough time with date math relative to my own age, birthday, or anniversary!!!
                  The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                    I have a hard enough time with date math relative to my own age, birthday, or anniversary!!!
                    Yeah, my brain is getting old.

                    But only going back just a few hundred years, dates get rather muddled. Like if asked when George Washington was born, people will say February 22, 1732. But his actual birth date - the date acknowledged at the time he was born - was February 11, 1731 (being amended later for the new calendar). So which date was he actually born on? It depends on the reference. And (IMO) the further back you go the more squishy it gets.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Ronson View Post
                      Yeah, my brain is getting old.

                      But only going back just a few hundred years, dates get rather muddled. Like if asked when George Washington was born, people will say February 22, 1732. But his actual birth date - the date acknowledged at the time he was born - was February 11, 1731 (being amended later for the new calendar). So which date was he actually born on? It depends on the reference. And (IMO) the further back you go the more squishy it gets.
                      My problem is that I lied about my age so I could join the military early, and I've been cursed with being "a year off" ever since.
                      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                        My problem is that I lied about my age so I could join the military early, and I've been cursed with being "a year off" ever since.
                        Really? That must have been a while back. My father did that in the 1930s because of the Depression. He was too young (16, I think) and said he was 18.

                        I'm thinking they'll ask for verification these days.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Ronson View Post
                          Really? That must have been a while back. My father did that in the 1930s because of the Depression. He was too young (16, I think) and said he was 18.

                          I'm thinking they'll ask for verification these days.
                          Yeah, that woulda been... um... '70-ish.
                          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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