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  • #31
    Originally posted by seer View Post
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    Scary - but for the wrong reason.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by seer View Post
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      What's your point? That a potential president is never allowed to have a fun moment? Are you seriously trying to allege that world leaders primarily make decisions about other world leaders based on one random picture? If you look hard enough you can always find a picture of a famous person having fun or looking silly at something.
      "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
      "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
      "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Starlight View Post
        What's your point? That a potential president is never allowed to have a fun moment? Are you seriously trying to allege that world leaders primarily make decisions about other world leaders based on one random picture? If you look hard enough you can always find a picture of a famous person having fun or looking silly at something.
        Yeah two gays guys on a swing will send fear and dread into the hearts of our enemies...
        Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Ronson View Post


          But this is getting pretty far away from the optics of a man kissing a man going down in Muslim nations.
          I'm pretty sure it probably doesn't play that well in Central and South America either.

          I'm always still in trouble again

          "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
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          • #35
            Originally posted by seer View Post
            Yeah two gays guys on a swing will send fear and dread into the hearts of our enemies...
            If the enemies are homophobic like you guys, then yes, I guess they would have fear and dread like you guys when they see that picture.
            "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
            "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
            "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Starlight View Post
              If the enemies are homophobic like you guys, then yes, I guess they would have fear and dread like you guys when they see that picture.
              No they would not have fear and dread, they would be laughing in our face...
              Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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              • #37
                Originally posted by seer View Post
                No they would not have fear and dread, they would be laughing in our face...
                Not a millionth as much as they do because you have Trump.

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                "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                  Not a millionth as much as they do because you have Trump.
                  Did I trigger you Star?
                  Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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                  • #39
                    I don't like Buttigieg, but the idea that we should not elect a given leader because he would be offensive to Muslims should be a non-starter, and I hope that's obvious outside of this particular context.

                    (I don't mean that in an unlimited sense; I don't think we should elect someone who runs on a campaign of nuking Mecca, like the late Christian scholar Robert Morey publicly called for, but that's an obvious human rights violation in the first place.)
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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
                      I don't like Buttigieg, but the idea that we should not elect a given leader because he would be offensive to Muslims should be a non-starter, and I hope that's obvious outside of this particular context.
                      Offensive? Most everything done in the west is offensive to Allah.

                      (I don't mean that in an unlimited sense; I don't think we should elect someone who runs on a campaign of nuking Mecca, like the late Christian scholar Robert Morey publicly called for, but that's an obvious human rights violation in the first place.)
                      Never heard of him.

                      The point here is that Buttgieg would not be respected or feared by our enemies. He would be like Obama X10.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Ronson View Post
                        The point here is that Buttgieg would not be respected or feared by our enemies. He would be like Obama X10.
                        I really don't get how the ludicrous propaganda claim that Obama wasn't respected has done so well.

                        Obama was by far and away the most internationally-respected US President in my lifetime. That's just a fact. Poll after poll after poll backs it up. Here's just a few headlines from polling agencies that have conducted international polls on the subject:
                        President Obama Leaves Office with High Worldwide Approval Ratings
                        As Obama Years Draw to Close, President and U.S. Seen Favorably in Europe and Asia
                        Trump’s International Ratings Remain Low, Especially Among Key Allies

                        US conservatives seem to en masse be woefully blind to how their presidents are viewed internationally. Bush was viewed as a laughingstock. Obama was viewed as a particularly great leader. Trump is viewed as a laughingstock's laughingstock and a definite candidate for any list of history's most foolish and failed leaders. The fact that US conservatives don't seem to understand that that is what the rest of the world thinks, and in fact think it's the other way around, is kinda worrying and kinda hilarious.

                        So if Pete, as you suggest, is thought of 10x worse than Obama, he'll still be doing well, much better than Bush or Trump.
                        "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                        "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                        "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                          I really don't get how the ludicrous propaganda claim that Obama wasn't respected has done so well.

                          Obama was by far and away the most internationally-respected US President in my lifetime. That's just a fact. Poll after poll after poll backs it up. Here's just a few headlines from polling agencies that have conducted international polls on the subject:
                          President Obama Leaves Office with High Worldwide Approval Ratings
                          As Obama Years Draw to Close, President and U.S. Seen Favorably in Europe and Asia
                          Trump’s International Ratings Remain Low, Especially Among Key Allies

                          US conservatives seem to en masse be woefully blind to how their presidents are viewed internationally. Bush was viewed as a laughingstock. Obama was viewed as a particularly great leader. Trump is viewed as a laughingstock's laughingstock and a definite candidate for any list of history's most foolish and failed leaders. The fact that US conservatives don't seem to understand that that is what the rest of the world thinks, and in fact think it's the other way around, is kinda worrying and kinda hilarious.

                          So if Pete, as you suggest, is thought of 10x worse than Obama, he'll still be doing well, much better than Bush or Trump.
                          As has been repeatedly noted the rest of the world tends to like us the most when we're hurting or weak and loathe us when we're strong. Obama symbolized a weak, anemic America so it wouldn't be a surprise that he was liked by you guys.

                          I'm always still in trouble again

                          "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                          "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                          "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                            As has been repeatedly noted the rest of the world tends to like us the most when we're hurting or weak and loathe us when we're strong. Obama symbolized a weak, anemic America so it wouldn't be a surprise that he was liked by you guys.
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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                              I really don't get how the ludicrous propaganda claim that Obama wasn't respected has done so well.

                              Obama was by far and away the most internationally-respected US President in my lifetime.
                              By "allies". He spent most of his time apologizing to everyone else.

                              That's just a fact. Poll after poll after poll backs it up. Here's just a few headlines from polling agencies that have conducted international polls on the subject:
                              President Obama Leaves Office with High Worldwide Approval Ratings
                              As Obama Years Draw to Close, President and U.S. Seen Favorably in Europe and Asia
                              Trump’s International Ratings Remain Low, Especially Among Key Allies

                              US conservatives seem to en masse be woefully blind to how their presidents are viewed internationally. Bush was viewed as a laughingstock. Obama was viewed as a particularly great leader.
                              Of course allies loved Obama. He basically was giving away US tax dollars wherever he could. Nothing like having a rich patsy in the neighborhood.

                              Oh, and he was black, which appealed to progressive allies. They gave him a Peace Prize for doing nothing more than being black - and then he ended up fomenting lots of chaos in the Middle East (some peaceful guy).

                              Trump is viewed as a laughingstock's laughingstock and a definite candidate for any list of history's most foolish and failed leaders. The fact that US conservatives don't seem to understand that that is what the rest of the world thinks, and in fact think it's the other way around, is kinda worrying and kinda hilarious.
                              You're creating your own reality now. Conservatives here don't believe Trump is popular internationally, so why are you claiming so? Being "popular" among allies and being feared by enemies aren't the same thing.

                              So if Pete, as you suggest, is thought of 10x worse than Obama, he'll still be doing well, much better than Bush or Trump.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Ronson View Post
                                I admit it. I could never vote for this guy - based purely on optics.

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                                It's called homophobia, sometimes related to self hatred and fear of ones own affinity to homosexuality.

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