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Fact-Checking Trump's SOTU Address
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostCharacterizing the lies trump tells almost continuously as 'misspeaking' is itself a lie.
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Originally posted by Jim B. View PostI don't think Trump thinks about 'truth' the way normal people do. I believe he regards it as a malleable, transactional medium to help him get whatever he wants in a given situation. I'm not a psychiatrist, so I won't go any further than that!"The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by Jim B. View PostAnd lies usually are stuff whats people say!The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Jim B. View PostActually, it is. Your predictions have to have some rational, credible basis; otherwise, they're just self-promotional puffery, ie the lies of a con artist. Otherwise a salesman can make any claim about his product's future predicted performance that he wants.
It's highly misleading, though. Statements can be false through implication and not necessarily overtly.
You didn't respond to the other alleged falsehoods.Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostWanna try that one again, Jim?
"Lies are usually what's people say."
It's almost poetic.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by JimL View PostMisspeaking is not lying, words coming out of Trumps mouth is lying.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostJimL, the point is that the other side always characterizes such things as lies. Trump speaks in generalities, and the media calls it a lie because if he said, "hundreds" and the actual number was 199 they would say he was lying. Those list of "Trump lies" are 90% stuff like that. Same with the Obama lists like the one I listed above. People are straining gnats. It's not a good look for either side. Makes them look petty and nobody takes anything they say seriously after that.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostThe only point is on top of your little head.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostCommon sense! I'm not the one who believes a man resurrected from death and ascended bodily like a rocketship into space on his way to heaven which apparently is place out there somewhere and that some day he will descend like a rocketship again from that place. If you're going to attack common sense, look first in the mirror.
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