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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostThe difference between the two is significant.
"This is improper" implies an objective statement that is independent of personal opinion. "I believe this is improper" indicates a subjective statement that may or may not be grounded in fact.
Let's put it this way, in a debate, how would you respond to "You're wrong" versus "I believe you're wrong"?The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Ronson View PostI will try that out for a while. Thanks.
ddg search.jpgThe first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostYou don't follow Breitbart closely enough to judge whether or not their stories are factual, yet you're always quick to dismiss them as a source.
Interesting.
Speaking of that, why is it you are so incapable of dealing with the entirety of a reply or argument and must on a regular basis distort said reply or argument first? This is a regular practice of yours. It is one thing to snip away unrelated elements, quite another the change the character of even the meaning of the entire statement by editing. unfortunately, you regularly do the latter, as you did in the reply above.Last edited by oxmixmudd; 02-10-2020, 09:22 AM.My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostEGGzackly. When somebody uses "I believe....." rather than make the statement outright, I think it shows they're not really comfortable making the declaration. It's like leaving wiggle room in case you're proven wrong.
Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostBiased reporting is often not about whether they have presented falsehoods, it is about how they have presented the facts the use, and how they have omitted other critical facts...Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostBut given your admitted unfamiliarity with Breitbart, how do you know if they're even guilty of this?The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostBut given your admitted unfamiliarity with Breitbart, how do you know if they're even guilty of this?My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostI can know it by what I have looked at from them, and by how their reporting of events differs from other sources. With a bias as strong as theirs is, it is not particularly hard to figure it out.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostSounds suspiciously like a case of confirmation bias.
Breitbart, in particular, is not even a legitimate news organisation any more than AIG or ICR are science organizations. It publishes information from a fixed ideology and to support that ideology. It is biased by definition.
I have no idea why I bothered to even waste time on any other means of defining why it is biased.
Legitimate news organizations report on significant events, ideally without trying to create an opinion about those events. Their success rate in terms of meeting that ideal is directly correlated with how biased their reporting is.
But something like Breitbart exists to create opinions about events, and to support a certain word view, not to report about events with the ideal of leaving opinion out of it.Last edited by oxmixmudd; 02-10-2020, 12:52 PM.My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostI'm sure it would ... to you.Last edited by RumTumTugger; 02-10-2020, 01:33 PM.
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Originally posted by RumTumTugger View PostIt does to any thinking person who looks at it Oxmix.My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostBut something like Breitbart exists to create opinions about events, and to support a certain word view, not to report about events with the ideal of leaving opinion out of it.
Like any other news organization, some stories report the straight facts, while others lean more towards opinion and editorial. They've even been known to publish an AP story as is without additional commentary. In other words, they're not doing anything that CNN, the Washington Post, the New York Times, or any other news source doesn't do today... with the only exception that they've never been busted publishing fake news like CNN, the Washington Post, the New York Times...Last edited by Mountain Man; 02-10-2020, 01:49 PM.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostI find it very difficult to find anything that is accepted as "non-biased" by the people on TWeb.
First of all, mocking a source as "biased" because you don't like the FACTS they show -- even if they included a video of somebody personally saying something, is just batpoop nutty.
Either the person SAID it, or they didn't, regardless of the source reporting it.
So, just curious if it's possible to list a couple sources that both liberals and conservatives or democrats and republicans, or whoever, thought were "non-biased".
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