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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Man View Post
    Probably not.


    And recommending a sentence without clearing it with DOJ higher-ups first is never done, and yet, that's exactly what happened.
    Accept the recomendation was cleared and signed by the U.S. Atty in Washington assigned to oversee the case by Barr himself. Barr, just like the president is a blatant liar. Barr admitted that the prosecutor, as he put it just stopped by for a chat, and there was some kind of a misunderstanding concerning the recomendation. He wants you to believe now that he told the prosecutor one thing, and that the prosecutor went out and defied the atty gen. anyway. It's a ludicrous defense by the Atty Gen. aimed at the naive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimLamebrain View Post
    Accept the recomendation was cleared and signed by the U.S. Atty in Washington assigned to oversee the case by Barr himself. Barr, just like the president is a blatant liar. Barr admitted that the prosecutor, as he put it just stopped by for a chat, and there was some kind of a misunderstanding concerning the recomendation. He wants you to believe now that he told the prosecutor one thing, and that the prosecutor went out and defied the atty gen. anyway. It's a ludicrous defense by the Atty Gen. aimed at the naive.
    I know willful ignorance is your natural state, but do try to keep up. According to the CBS report I referenced earlier, what was recommended to the court is not what was briefed to the DOJ, so there was definitely some funny business going on requiring unusual intervention to correct the matter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Man View Post
    I know willful ignorance is your natural state, but do try to keep up. According to the CBS report I referenced earlier, what was recommended to the court is not what was briefed to the DOJ, so there was definitely some funny business going on requiring unusual intervention to correct the matter.
    Yes, I know you believe Barr, that the prosecutors just defied the Atty Gen, but you are naive and blinded by your lack of critical thinking abilities. The Atty Gen. defied the legal standards of his own dept which is to go by the sentencing guidelines, which is exactly what the prosecutors did. Barr is simply following Trumps orders even if those orders come via tweet. I suspect that the Judge will ignore the Presidents threats and make her own judgement and then at some point Trump who believes he is the law, will further demean the rule of law and pardon his partner in crime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimLamebrain View Post
    Yes, I know you believe Barr, that the prosecutors just defied the Atty Gen, but you are naive and blinded by your lack of critical thinking abilities. The Atty Gen. defied the legal standards of his own dept which is to go by the sentencing guidelines, which is exactly what the prosecutors did. Barr is simply following Trumps orders even if those orders come via tweet. I suspect that the Judge will ignore the Presidents threats and make her own judgement and then at some point Trump who believes he is the law, will further demean the rule of law and pardon his partner in crime.
    DOJ says that the they were already in the process of correcting the error when Trump tweeted, and in fact, Barr recently said he wishes Trump would cool it with the Twitter nonsense because it's making it impossible for him to do his job.

    By the way, Barr has agreed to testify about this matter before the House, so it's all going to come out. All of it, and I guarantee the Democrats will very quickly wish it hadn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Man View Post
    DOJ says that the they were already in the process of correcting the error when Trump tweeted, and in fact, Barr recently said he wishes Trump would cool it with the Twitter nonsense because it's making it impossible for him to do his job.
    The DOJ in this case is the Atty Gen., and the Atty Gen isn't going to incriminate himself now is he. The fact is that the tweet came first, the overiding of the prosecutors sentencing recomendations came second.
    By the way, Barr has agreed to testify about this matter before the House, so it's all going to come out. All of it, and I guarantee the Democrats will very quickly wish it hadn't.
    Good, Barr's got a lot a splainen to do. I'm sure he's working hard to come up with the lies he's going to tell right now. I suspect he might back out and refuse to testify at the last moment. After all, that tactic has worked for them so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimLamebrain View Post
    The DOJ in this case is the Atty Gen., and the Atty Gen isn't going to incriminate himself now is he. The fact is that the tweet came first, the overiding of the prosecutors sentencing recomendations came second.

    Good, Barr's got a lot a splainen to do. I'm sure he's working hard to come up with the lies he's going to tell right now. I suspect he might back out and refuse to testify at the last moment. After all, that tactic has worked for them so far.
    It will be fun to watch you change your tune when Barr testifies in March.
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    All this could be avoided if someone would just take Trump's twitter away from him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Man View Post
    What are you talking about? It was the rogue prosecutors who subverted the DOJ by recommending an extreme sentence without clearing it with their bosses!

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    Quote Originally Posted by demi-conservative View Post
    Lying to Congress is a crime, except for Congressmen.
    Lying to Congress is a crime

    Lying from Congress is SOP

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    Quote Originally Posted by rogue06 View Post
    Lying to Congress is a crime

    Lying from Congress is SOP
    I heard from a highly ranked source that rogue06 didn't pay his taxes last year. That'll cost you some votes!
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