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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimbulb View Post
    Previously you guys have claimed that everything in the Steele dossier was false. Now it's all from the FBI? Does that mean you've given up on the claim it's all false?
    I don't believe anybody ever claimed that it was "all false". What was false, primarily, were the salacious claims about Trump and any attempts to tie him directly to Russian influence.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dimbulb View Post
    And what's with the obsession with Steele? His actions played a minor role at best in the course of events...
    Why are you so ignorant?

    If you read the Weissmann/Mueller report carefully one aspect stands out strongly; the Mueller investigation was fully committed to The Steele Dossier. An inordinate amount of the report is focused on justifying their investigative validity and purpose in looking at the claims within the Steele Dossier.

    Repeatedly, the investigative unit references their mandate based around the Steele Dossier, and the mid-summer 2016 origin of the FBI counterintelligence operation.

    Why? Why was/is Crossfire Hurricane (July ’16) and the Steele Dossier (Oct. ’16) so important to the principle intelligence apparatus, and the Mueller team (’17, ’18, ’19)?

    I believe former NSA Director Admiral Mike Rogers has told us the answer. In early 2016 Rogers caught on to a massive and pre-existing weaponization of government surveillance and the use of collected NSA metadata for political spy operations. Everything, that comes AFTER March 2016 is one big blanket cover-up operation….. ALL OF IT.

    The Russian election interference narrative; the use of Joseph Mifsud, Stefan Halper, the London and Australian embassy personnel; Erika Thompson, Alexander Downer, U.S. DIA officials; everything around Crossfire Hurricane; and everything after to include the construct of the Steele Dossier; all of it was needed for the creation of an ‘after-the-fact‘ plausible justification to cover-up what Mike Rogers discovered in early 2016, AND the downstream unmasked records that existed in the Obama White House SCIF.

    Fusion GPS was not hired in April 2016 to research Donald Trump. The intelligence community was already doing surveillance and spy operations. They already knew everything about the Trump campaign. The Obama intelligence community needed Fusion GPS to give them a justification for pre-existing surveillance and spy operations.

    That’s why the FBI, and later the Mueller team, are so strongly committed to, and defending, the formation of the Steele Dossier and its dubious content.

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com...py-operations/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Man View Post
    If you read the Weissmann/Mueller report carefully one aspect stands out strongly; the Mueller investigation was fully committed to The Steele Dossier. An inordinate amount of the report is focused on justifying their investigative validity and purpose in looking at the claims within the Steele Dossier.

    Repeatedly, the investigative unit references their mandate based around the Steele Dossier, and the mid-summer 2016 origin of the FBI counterintelligence operation.

    Why? Why was/is Crossfire Hurricane (July ’16) and the Steele Dossier (Oct. ’16) so important to the principle intelligence apparatus, and the Mueller team (’17, ’18, ’19)?

    I believe former NSA Director Admiral Mike Rogers has told us the answer. In early 2016 Rogers caught on to a massive and pre-existing weaponization of government surveillance and the use of collected NSA metadata for political spy operations. Everything, that comes AFTER March 2016 is one big blanket cover-up operation….. ALL OF IT.

    The Russian election interference narrative; the use of Joseph Mifsud, Stefan Halper, the London and Australian embassy personnel; Erika Thompson, Alexander Downer, U.S. DIA officials; everything around Crossfire Hurricane; and everything after to include the construct of the Steele Dossier; all of it was needed for the creation of an ‘after-the-fact‘ plausible justification to cover-up what Mike Rogers discovered in early 2016, AND the downstream unmasked records that existed in the Obama White House SCIF.

    Fusion GPS was not hired in April 2016 to research Donald Trump. The intelligence community was already doing surveillance and spy operations. They already knew everything about the Trump campaign. The Obama intelligence community needed Fusion GPS to give them a justification for pre-existing surveillance and spy operations.

    That’s why the FBI, and later the Mueller team, are so strongly committed to, and defending, the formation of the Steele Dossier and its dubious content.

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com...py-operations/
    Do you not get that these right-wing nut-house sites just write straight-out fiction? All of the above is just plain made up.

    I can't get over how gullible you are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimbulb View Post
    Do you not get that these right-wing nut-house sites just write straight-out fiction? All of the above is just plain made up.

    I can't get over how gullible you are.
    Follow the link, kiddo, and read the WHOLE article. Everything is throughly documented with images of original documents and links to primary sources.

    But nice attempt at a genetic fallacy. I can't even give you credit for the effort because it was so lazy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlight View Post
    What is wrong with you guys that you buy into all these crazy theories? Previously you guys have claimed that everything in the Steele dossier was false. Now it's all from the FBI? Does that mean you've given up on the claim it's all false?

    And what's with the obsession with Steele? His actions played a minor role at best in the course of events, yet you conspiracy-mongers seem to go back to it again and again.
    From the IG's Report on his investigation, which has not been disputed. The same report the article from CP's link cited, If you actually knew what citations were you'd understand it is not a crazy theory. but what can we expect of someone who cites Wikipedia as a scholarly source

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    Wait, what? The FBI bootstrapped their investigation by helping Steele to create the dossier, then used the dossier to get the false FISA warrants and create the whole Trump scandal?
    Don't be a dope. It does't say anything about the FBI helping Steele create the dossier. The FBI didn't get the info about Papadopolous from Steele, they got it from Australia, and it was that info which was used to open the investigation, not the dossier.
    How are these people not in prison yet? Or hung for treason? This whole thing is tantamount to an attempted coup by the Democrats.
    The only coup is the one taking place right now by the President and his corrupt minnions who are trying to overthrow the very government you elected them to serve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlight View Post
    Do you not get that these right-wing nut-house sites just write straight-out fiction? All of the above is just plain made up.

    I can't get over how gullible you are.
    I can't figure out if it's gullibility, brainwashing, groupthink or what, but something in their brains is certainly affecting their ability to discern fact from fiction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimLamebrain View Post
    I can't figure out if it's gullibility, brainwashing, groupthink or what, but something in their brains is certainly affecting their ability to discern fact from fiction.
    No, Jimmy, go to the source I referenced and show what it got wrong. And I want to see sources, not just bald assertions. That goes for Dimbulb, too. Ad hominems and genetic fallacies are easy and intellectually dishonest. Let's see you two put some real thought and work into a response.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlight View Post
    What is wrong with you guys that you buy into all these crazy theories? Previously you guys have claimed that everything in the Steele dossier was false. Now it's all from the FBI? Does that mean you've given up on the claim it's all false?

    And what's with the obsession with Steele? His actions played a minor role at best in the course of events, yet you conspiracy-mongers seem to go back to it again and again.
    I think the Russians have gotten to them.
    I DENOUNCE DONALD J. TRUMP AND ALL HIS IMMORAL ACTS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by demi-conservative View Post
    People can't yet accept that the FBI was that politicised, that someone directed them to be so criminally politicised. Give it time.
    Yeah, yeah we all know: Donald good, FBI bad.
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