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    Do Dems want a war with Iran?

    Do Dems want a war with Iran, as part of their incessant campaign to tear down Trump and the Republican Party?

    There is a story, according factcheck. org, making the rounds that the dems want war with Iran to frustrate the successful foreign policy in the region.

    How credible is the story? I'm not talking about the details of deep state and of the enemy within paranoia, but that the dems would be satisfied if the president became entangled in a war?

    A second point is just how well accepted the deepstate stuff is, the well entrenched apartchniks who are actively working to subvert this country?

    Have those ideas ever popped up on tweb?

    https://www.factcheck.org/2020/02/vi...piracy-theory/

    https://thehill.com/policy/defense/4...ran-war-powers

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    Without reading the story, starting a war for political reasons is a time-honoured practice, so it's entirely plausible. The Democrat establishment obviously want Trump out by any means necessary, so they would actually want a new war.

    Trump has stymied it for now, albeit with massive lying to deescalate the situation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by simplicio View Post
    Do Dems want a war with Iran, as part of their incessant campaign to tear down Trump and the Republican Party?

    There is a story, according factcheck. org, making the rounds that the dems want war with Iran to frustrate the successful foreign policy in the region.

    How credible is the story? I'm not talking about the details of deep state and of the enemy within paranoia, but that the dems would be satisfied if the president became entangled in a war?

    A second point is just how well accepted the deepstate stuff is, the well entrenched apartchniks who are actively working to subvert this country?

    Have those ideas ever popped up on tweb?

    https://www.factcheck.org/2020/02/vi...piracy-theory/

    https://thehill.com/policy/defense/4...ran-war-powers
    What a weird thread. You ask a rhetorical question in the title, then answer it with two links to sites that (at least they claim to) debunk it. So what is the point of the OP?
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    Quote Originally Posted by simplicio View Post
    Do Dems want a war with Iran, as part of their incessant campaign to tear down Trump and the Republican Party?
    Nah, Texas is where they're really planning to invade, like Obama was going to do before he got caught.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seanD View Post
    What a weird thread. You ask a rhetorical question in the title, then answer it with two links to sites that (at least they claim to) debunk it. So what is the point of the OP?
    But there are two distinct things, the actual conspiracy story, and the willingness to believe it (for want of a better phrase). Note the first two responses, while keeping in mind the OP question on whether you've see the ideas before:

    Given MM's version of the political landscape'e scorched earth, Demi's insistence such things are pervasive throughout history, and starting a war would be consistent with the Dems philosophy, it seems such stories do have a receptive audience.

    And without reading the story, Demi even hit on the one point I neglected because it was so bizarre. Trump as the hero of the story of a hollywood script of political intrigue, or maybe Kiefer Sutherland's character from the series 24, foiling the plans of the enemy cabal, but keeping it silent.

    Hey, I do find it quite possible that Trump is able to skillfully navigate the corridors of power and intrigue successfully to foil the Dem's plans. But is it likely Trump would remain silent about it? Though it would be quite the ace to keep up the sleeve.

    Which leaves Starlight. Was his point entirely the result of a Kiwi's furtive imagination? Maybe the New Zealanders really do fret over invasions of Texas. Or maybe Starlight hit on the point of the OP!

    There is the title and the links which younoted in your post. But the OP also had two questions, plus a third which asked if you've seen those ideas expressed on Tweb.

    Are the stories of Dems wanting to spark a war to achieve their domestic goals of retaking the White House (and making Americans vassals of the Democratic elite!)

    Do the deep state theories well accepted among Republicans, conservatives, or Trump supporters?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlight View Post
    Nah, Texas is where they're really planning to invade, like Obama was going to do before he got caught.
    Which is why Obama is working on Plan B: Becoming Grand Supreme Dictator for Life of the UN and institute the One World Religion. Unless those plucky underdogs, the Patriot militias, under Trump's wise leadership, foil his plans yet again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simplicio View Post
    Which leaves Starlight. Was his point entirely the result of a Kiwi's furtive imagination? Maybe the New Zealanders really do fret over invasions of Texas. Or maybe Starlight hit on the point of the OP!
    I was simply thinking back to last time the bumpkins on this forum were worried democrats would invade something. That was Jade Helm when they were worried about Obama invading Texas.

    Interestingly, in googling it, I see US intelligence agencies have said it was a Russian con on the credulous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlight View Post
    I was simply thinking back to last time the bumpkins on this forum were worried democrats would invade something. That was Jade Helm when they were worried about Obama invading Texas.

    Interestingly, in googling it, I see US intelligence agencies have said it was a Russian con on the credulous.
    Jade Helm had quite a few worried about the 'divisions' training with the US, on US soil. At least the Governor of Texas had the good sense to keep a close on on our military. They may be heroes when they nabbed bin Laden, but you reallllllly can't trust them.

    And I do have it from a very reliable source, Infowars, that there were Russian divisions and Spetsnaz (special forces commandos) hiding in the blue state of New Mexico, to work with the US military. And Infowars is credible to quite a few.

    Jade Helm did not pan out, one conclusion that is drawn was that enough patriots were alerted that it could not go as planned. A well armed citizenry can take on the world's greatest military and win. Red Dawn scenarios is only one false flag attack away! (Red Dawn is a movie in which the Ruskies invade Colorado, and teenagers 'coming of age' mount the counterinsurrgency)

    Many of the same people who accepted the possibility of the invasion of sovereign state of Texas in order to strip America of it sovereignty, also were pretty sure Obama was going to be the dictator for life of the UN, force the One World Religion preparing for the antichrist and forcing us to take the mark of the beast. Its all in the Bible.

    So the Dems manipulating us into an Iran War to take down Trump is pretty mild.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simplicio View Post
    But there are two distinct things, the actual conspiracy story, and the willingness to believe it (for want of a better phrase). Note the first two responses, while keeping in mind the OP question on whether you've see the ideas before:

    Given MM's version of the political landscape'e scorched earth, Demi's insistence such things are pervasive throughout history, and starting a war would be consistent with the Dems philosophy, it seems such stories do have a receptive audience.

    And without reading the story, Demi even hit on the one point I neglected because it was so bizarre. Trump as the hero of the story of a hollywood script of political intrigue, or maybe Kiefer Sutherland's character from the series 24, foiling the plans of the enemy cabal, but keeping it silent.

    Hey, I do find it quite possible that Trump is able to skillfully navigate the corridors of power and intrigue successfully to foil the Dem's plans. But is it likely Trump would remain silent about it? Though it would be quite the ace to keep up the sleeve.

    Which leaves Starlight. Was his point entirely the result of a Kiwi's furtive imagination? Maybe the New Zealanders really do fret over invasions of Texas. Or maybe Starlight hit on the point of the OP!

    There is the title and the links which younoted in your post. But the OP also had two questions, plus a third which asked if you've seen those ideas expressed on Tweb.

    Are the stories of Dems wanting to spark a war to achieve their domestic goals of retaking the White House (and making Americans vassals of the Democratic elite!)

    Do the deep state theories well accepted among Republicans, conservatives, or Trump supporters?
    I think you should focus on making forum posts that asks clear questions. You seem to be throwing a ball of confetti into the air and hoping anyone will interact with it.

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