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    McCabe case closed without an indictment

    After two years of nonsense by the DOJ, the case against Andrew McCabe has been closed. The Justice Dept after multiple tries could not get a Grand Jury to indict and, having no actual case, would not charge McCabe, but delayed and delayed and delayed until they realized the Judge was fed up with their delays and they opted to close the case rather than ask the Judge one more time for a delay. That is an example of the Trump Justice Departments inclination to punish his percieved enemies, innocent or not, and let his corrupt loyalists, those multiple cases that Atty Gen. Barr has been intervening in, off the hook. The rule of law has been breached and Atty Gen. Barr should be impeached immediately before any more damage to the Justice Dept. is done.

    http://www.sandiegotribune.com/new/nation-world/story/2020-02-14/justice-dept-closes-case-against-ex-fbi-official-mccabe
    Last edited by JimL; 02-15-2020 at 02:49 PM.

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    Two tiered justice system. McCabe did exactly what Michael Flynn is accused of doing: lying under oath to investigators, yet Flynn's life has been destroyed while McCabe walks free. Disgusting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Man View Post
    Two tiered justice system. McCabe did exactly what Michael Flynn is accused of doing: lying under oath to investigators, yet Flynn's life has been destroyed while McCabe walks free. Disgusting.

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    Is lack of candor an indictable offence?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimL View Post
    The Justice Dept after multiple tries could not get a Grand Jury to indict
    I seem to recall back when Mueller was filing his indictments the constant refrain here from the bumpkins sticking their heads in the sand was that you can get a grand jury to indict a ham sandwich.

    I guess it isn't true. I guess you need actual evidence. I guess Trump and Barr's fishing expeditions against their person enemies and misuse of the government to further those ends has floundered on the rocks of having no actual facts to back them up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Watermelon View Post
    Is lack of candor an indictable offence?
    Yes. That's legalese for "lying".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Man View Post
    Yes. That's legalese for "lying".
    I don’t think so. It’s not a phrase I’ve previously encountered so I had to look it up and it seems to mean something like ‘not assisting with their full ability’. Not being as helpful as they can or should be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Man View Post
    Two tiered justice system. McCabe did exactly what Michael Flynn is accused of doing: lying under oath to investigators, yet Flynn's life has been destroyed while McCabe walks free. Disgusting.

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    This was the Trump/Barr DOJ that decided to drop the charges, MM. They did this after two years of playing games with the Judge by repeatedly asking for more time until the frustrated Judge finally said to them to either put up or shut up. They shut up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Watermelon View Post
    I don’t think so. It’s not a phrase I’ve previously encountered so I had to look it up and it seems to mean something like ‘not assisting with their full ability’. Not being as helpful as they can or should be.
    “Lack of candor is untruthfulness or an attempt to dissemble from the point of view of the investigator,” said Dave Gomez, a former FBI agent and a senior fellow at George Washington University’s Center for Cyber and Homeland Security. “The problem comes when, in answering a question, the person under investigation attempts to spin his answer in order to present his actions in the best possible light. This is normal human behavior, but can be interpreted as a lack of candor by the investigator.”

    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...candor/556262/

    So it's either outright lying, or giving answers that are deliberately intended to deceive. Regardless, it's a crime, especially when one is under oath as McCabe was on three separate occasions. There's no question that he should have been charged, and it's hard to say why he wasn't.
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    Now it's starting to make sense...

    DAG Rosenstein could not prosecute James Wolfe without exposing ‘seditious‘ activity within the U.S. government itself. Not pretend sedition or theoretical sedition, but an actual pre-planned subversive operation with forethought and malice.

    Likewise AG Bill Barr cannot prosecute Andrew McCabe without exposing the same ‘seditious‘ activity; which also encompasses the activity of Rod Rosenstein. Whether Barr wants to protect Rosenstein is moot; if Barr wants to protect the institutions from sunlight on two years of actual seditious activity, he has to protect Rosenstein.

    It’s the underlying activity that cannot be allowed to surface; the institutions of government are not strong enough, nor are they set-up to handle, prosecutions that overlap all three branches of government. [ex. read former questions]

    However, that said, now AG Bill Barr is facing a downstream and parallel issue within the prosecution of Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn. How can Michael Flynn be sentenced for lying to the FBI when the DOJ is necessarily refusing to prosecute Andrew McCabe (at least what has been made public) for the exact same behavior?

    Against this dynamic, the DOJ has two options: (Option A) go even harder at General Flynn using additional charges that are not as comparable to McCabe. (Option B) find a way to drop the prosecution.

    This dynamic is why the McCabe prosecution was not resolved in 2018. This issue explains why there has been such a delay in the McCabe issue(s) since Bill Barr came into the picture in February 2019.

    If Flynn just took the plea, everything would have been easier for the DOJ. There would have been nothing to compare between the two, and time would have created distance to avoid any real comparison. But Flynn reversed position and backed away from the plea.

    ...

    Those who framed the sedition recognize Bill Barr’s outlook on institutional preservation is an opportunity to weaponize against him. That is why four prosecutors could so easily defy his authority and set Barr up with the Roger Stone sentencing recommendation.

    The Lawfare team know Bill Barr is trying to navigate away from exposing seditious corruption the same Lawfare team helped facilitate. The Lawfare group know Barr cannot prosecute McCabe; and they know exactly why. The Lawfare group can also see Barr protecting Rosenstein; and again, they know the reason why.

    The corrupt crew saw what the DOJ and FBI did when they had the opportunity to expose it all in 2018. DAG Rosenstein was afraid.

    In 2020 AG Barr’s value for the institutions is also why AG Barr is afraid…

    The seditious group filled the DOJ fire truck tanks with gasoline, and then they lit the House on fire. General Flynn is trapped on the roof…. The neighborhood is shouting at fire Chief Barr “put out the [censored] fire you idiots“, and wondering why everyone is just watching the House burn. Meanwhile, there’s several firefighters who know what’s in the tanks, and they are standing, smiling, hoses at the ready, cheering-on the angry shouts from the crowd…

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com...-ag-bill-barr/
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    Than a fool in the eyes of God


    From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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