McCabe case closed without an indictment

[Sparko]

The Atty Gen's job is not to fix cases of interest to the President and his loyalists by intervening and overiding the prosecutors sentence recommendations which they determine by the U.S. sentencing guidelines.

**Eric Holder** cough. Cough.

[Mountain Man]

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[JimL]

As usual you're just throwing crap at the wall and hoping it sticks. The AG is not the one who makes the recommendation, the actual prosecutors on the case make that recommendation and they go by the sentencing guidelines, which in this case, the Stone case, was signed off on by the AG and then retracted after Trump tweeted his disapproval.

[lilpixieofterror]

As usual you're just throwing crap at the wall and hoping it sticks. The AG is not the one who makes the recommendation, the actual prosecutors on the case make that recommendation and they go by the sentencing guidelines, which in this case, the Stone case, was signed off on by the AG and then retracted after Trump tweeted his disapproval.

[JimL]

Again, where are you getting this from? Cite your source, because I can find nothing to suggest that the DOJ tried to indict but was shot down by a grand jury.

The DOJ has been going at this case for 2 yrs, MM. A Grand Jury was convened in September and failed to indict. The DOJ then kept delaying until they knew they would have to either put up or shut up, so they shut up. If you can't find it then you aren't looking.

[JimL]

You can't have it both ways, Jimmy. You guys talk about how Barr is Trump's puppet and he can control the justice department which makes him a dictator, yet he can't get someone he wants in jail to even stand trial?

Like I said, the Judiciary is not in his back pocket yet. Not that the DOJ is either, but the head of the DOJ is and 2000 federal prosecutors just signed on to a letter to that effect saying that the AG should resign for intervening to fix the cases of interests to the president and his corrupt buddies.

[JimL]

**Eric Holder** cough. Cough.

Well, whether I agree with you or not, are you saying Eric Holder did the right and legal thing.

[Mountain Man]

The DOJ has been going at this case for 2 yrs, MM. A Grand Jury was convened in September and failed to indict. The DOJ then kept delaying until they knew they would have to either put up or shut up, so they shut up. If you can't find it then you aren't looking.

Still no sources cited. Everything I can find suggests that the DOJ never even attempted to indict despite the evidence uncovered by Horowitz which roved that McCabe not only leaked sensitive information to the media, but he lied about it for months. Trust me, Jimmy, this thing is a lot more complicated than your soundbite talking points have led you to understand.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/...ccabe-charged/

[Mountain Man]

Outrageous! More presidential interference in our justice system! This time Trump commutes the sentence of an Illinois Democrat, former Governor Rod Blagojevich! Trump is protecting his own agai...

Wait, what?

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...jail-sentence/

[Ronson]

You can't have it both ways, Jimmy. You guys talk about how Barr is Trump's puppet and he can control the justice department which makes him a dictator, yet he can't get someone he wants in jail to even stand trial?

It's the same thing with the 'Trump-is-Putin's-puppet' charge. Despite Trump's bombing of Assad, continued sanctions against Russia (even adding more), lack of Crimean acknowledgement, support for Ukraine, and various other barely-reported conflicts, Trump is feverishly trying to put an end to the Russo-German pipeline, potentially costing Russia many billions of dollars. So, he either isn't Putin's puppet, or he is a very bad puppet.

https://clarion.causeaction.com/2020...many-pipeline/

[Ronson]

Outrageous! More presidential interference in our justice system! This time Trump commutes the sentence of an Illinois Democrat, former Governor Rod Blagojevich! Trump is protecting his own agai...

Wait, what?

[box]

Blagojevich wasn't "stupid" but I agree his crime hardly deserves 14 years. There are people in prison for attempted murder serving the same amount of time.

https://www.statesmanjournal.com/sto...on/2430609001/

[JimL]

Blagojevich wasn't "stupid" but I agree his crime hardly deserves 14 years. There are people in prison for attempted murder serving the same amount of time.

https://www.statesmanjournal.com/sto...on/2430609001/

People like Blagojevich, and the NYC Police commisioner who was also pardoned by Trump, they get harsher sentences than Joe Shmoe because of the positions of public trust that they hold. Stone, rather than 7-9 yrs, could have gotten up to 20 years under the sentencing guildlines, and if he held a position of public trust, he probably would have. Trump is just trying to let his corrupt loyalist know that he has their backs, that he is going to pardon them, and he wants you to get used to it as well. Trump believes that he is the law.

[JimL]

Still no sources cited. Everything I can find suggests that the DOJ never even attempted to indict despite the evidence uncovered by Horowitz which roved that McCabe not only leaked sensitive information to the media, but he lied about it for months. Trust me, Jimmy, this thing is a lot more complicated than your soundbite talking points have led you to understand.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/...ccabe-charged/

Rationalizations for dropping the case is all you've got, MM. The fact is that they convened a Grand Jury, they failed to get an indictment, and they delayed and delyed, continuing to ask the Judge for more time until after 2 yrs of trying they realized the futility of going forward and dropped the case.

[Mountain Man]

Rationalizations for dropping the case is all you've got, MM. The fact is that they convened a Grand Jury, they failed to get an indictment, and they delayed and delyed, continuing to ask the Judge for more time until after 2 yrs of trying they realized the futility of going forward and dropped the case.

Yes, the but the question is, knowing what we know, and what the DOJ knows from the Horowitz investigation, why didn't they press charges? It's not that they couldn't get a grand jury to indict. Rather, they simply didn't try. Personally, I don't share your complete lack of curiosity.

[Mountain Man]

People like Blagojevich, and the NYC Police commisioner who was also pardoned by Trump, they get harsher sentences than Joe Shmoe because of the positions of public trust that they hold. Stone, rather than 7-9 yrs, could have gotten up to 20 years under the sentencing guildlines, and if he held a position of public trust, he probably would have. Trump is just trying to let his corrupt loyalist know that he has their backs, that he is going to pardon them, and he wants you to get used to it as well. Trump believes that he is the law.

Blagojevich is a Trump loyalist?