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  • #31
    Originally posted by Leonhard View Post
    This test was not about Communism.
    I thought it was reasonably on-target. Some of the questions are communism-adjacent rather than communist, but the makers of the test seem to be aware of that and the personal summaries at the end of the test make it clear they understand the differences between social democrats, democratic socialism and communism.

    but Marx never wrote about centralized state control.
    Indeed. Many people associate Marx with 'communism', but the sort of state-controlled communism we're familiar with today originated with Lenin not Marx.

    Marx focused on microeconomics - how individual businesses work and are structured, and wanted workers in businesses to have more say on how they were run. He didn't advocate for any sort of massive government control of the economy, or government control of anything much. If anything, he was a libertarian when it came to government. Though Marx has a lot of ideas in his writings, and sometimes contradicts himself, there are two primary themes he sticks to that I would say he values above all else: Increasing democracy, and increasing the rights and power of workers.

    Lenin, on the other hand, came up with a version of communism that was pretty much antithetical to both democracy and worker's rights - a one-party totalitarian state in which workers had fewer rights than they'd had under capitalism and in which the state controlled everything. Quite antithetical to Marx's views in key ways.

    Also: 35% meaning I am a free market capitalist who believes in reasonable regulations, and I am critical of individualism (which at any rate is an anti-conservative value).
    That seems a reasonable assessment of your views. Seems to me the test is getting it right.
    "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
    "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
    "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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    • #32
      Originally posted by dirtfloor View Post
      A very low score or a very high score suggests the person is an extremist.
      Yes, either extremely sensible, or extremely stupid.
      Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
      But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
      Than a fool in the eyes of God


      From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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      • #33
        Originally posted by MaxVel View Post
        I scored a healthy 22%. Probably because a few questions were kind of ambiguous or too broad - like the one about religion drugging the masses. Well, yeah, but not all religions. Scientology vs Buddhism vs Bahai vs ....
        Several of the screen-shots make reference to "Marxian texts," "Marxian literature," etc., so presumably that question alluded to the Marx quote often cited as "religion is the opiate of the masses." It probably supposes that if you agree with Marx, you would believe that *any* religion serves the role of a drug.
        Geislerminian Antinomian Kenotic Charispneumaticostal Gender Mutualist-Egalitarian.

        Beige Federalist.

        Nationalist Christian.

        "Everybody is somebody's heretic."

        Social Justice is usually the opposite of actual justice.

        Proud member of the this space left blank community.

        Would-be Grand Vizier of the Padishah Maxi-Super-Ultra-Hyper-Mega-MAGA King Trumpius Rex.

        Justice for Ashli Babbitt!

        Justice for Matthew Perna!

        Arrest Ray Epps and his Fed bosses!

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
          I suspect it's about as accurate as Political Compass.
          Actually the site has one of those too.

          https://www.idrlabs.com/political-coordinates/test.php

          It seems a bit more realistic than the actual political compass. Obama shows up on the liberal side on this one, compared to showing up as a conservative on the original PC. On the Political Compass, it showed me as smack dab in the center. But this one shows me as a conservative, near Reagan. Which is closer to the way I think I am.

          My score and the comparison with Political Leaders:

          politcomp.jpg

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Sparko View Post
            Actually the site has one of those too.

            https://www.idrlabs.com/political-coordinates/test.php

            It seems a bit more realistic than the actual political compass.
            As before.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Sparko View Post
              Actually the site has one of those too.

              https://www.idrlabs.com/political-coordinates/test.php

              It seems a bit more realistic than the actual political compass. Obama shows up on the liberal side on this one, compared to showing up as a conservative on the original PC. On the Political Compass, it showed me as smack dab in the center. But this one shows me as a conservative, near Reagan. Which is closer to the way I think I am.

              My score and the comparison with Political Leaders:

              [ATTACH=CONFIG]42900[/ATTACH]

              MaxVel : 13.9% Right, 36.1% Communitarian

              Still fairly moderate overall, I was hoping for something closer to Attila the Hun. Like Sparko, I come out pretty much middle on the Political Compass.

              I think some of the questions are more suited to an American audience than an international one, maybe that was the problem.
              ...>>> Witty remark or snarky quote of another poster goes here <<<...

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                Actually the site has one of those too.

                https://www.idrlabs.com/political-coordinates/test.php

                It seems a bit more realistic than the actual political compass. Obama shows up on the liberal side on this one, compared to showing up as a conservative on the original PC. On the Political Compass, it showed me as smack dab in the center. But this one shows me as a conservative, near Reagan. Which is closer to the way I think I am.

                My score and the comparison with Political Leaders:
                I'm 66.7% Right, 47.2% Communitarian
                Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by MaxVel View Post
                  MaxVel : 13.9% Right, 36.1% Communitarian
                  Commie!
                  Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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                  • #39
                    What the heck is a "communitarian?" Sounds communist! The Political Compass had "Authoritarian" and "Libertarian"

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                      Yes, either extremely sensible, or extremely stupid.
                      Hi Mountain Man!
                      Which are you?

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                      • #41
                        Yeah, sounds a smidgen higher than mine which was 28 percent.
                        A happy family is but an earlier heaven.
                        George Bernard Shaw

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