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Originally posted by seanD View PostI read your posts fine. It's the way you convey your points in your posts that gets ambiguous. I've told you that before.
If you weren't talking about popular vote then what exactly is "something else to work with?"
And polls are irrelevant, as we've seen multiple times from the past. In fact, Biden was leading in the national polls before Iowa. They're irrelevant, and one could even argue, misleading.Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostUm, wouldn't a majority of the delegates necessarily cross the 50% threshold? You're also not really addressing what I said; Bloomberg is unlikely to peel off many Sanders voters, so unless he surges well past Buttigieg and Klochubar, he's only kneecapping their chances to take Sanders down.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostYou, you can win the majority without it being 50%; for instance, he could win 40%, two candidates could win 20%, and two more could win 10%. He needs a plurality to win the nomination outright. The fact that it's another candidate for people to vote for who might otherwise vote for Bernie could disrupt things just enough to keep him from going past 50%. Then, of course, there's the super delegate problem for him to overcome which Bernie's campaign has admitted they don't have a strategy for.Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostIt's not my fault that you somehow managed to construe "leftist vote" as "popular vote" and ran with that.
I WAS talking about the popular vote there, because I was responding to your post - which brought it up. What I mean is that the Democrats' nomination process includes delegates (which more or less correspond to the popular vote, though they're not synonymous) and superdelegates (which are wholly independent of the popular vote). There are insufficient superdelegate votes to give someone the nomination without at least some popular vote (read: delegate) support; thus, the populare vote is NOT irrelevant.
No, polls aren't irrelevant, or nobody would bother doing them. They're not a valuable predictor this far out, but they can be used to sway peoples' minds (and are quite often set up to do so).
I brought up the popular vote because you previously said:
Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostAs has been pointed out, Sanders pretty much has the leftist vote sewn up,
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostDenmarkbegs to differ with you.
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post40% is not a majority; it's merely more than anyone else gets in your scenario.
"The group or political party having the greater number of votes."
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/majoritySome may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
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Than a fool in the eyes of God
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostUm, "more than anyone else" is the definition of majority.
"The group or political party having the greater number of votes."
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/majority
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostYou, you can win the majority without it being 50%; for instance, he could win 40%, two candidates could win 20%, and two more could win 10%. He needs a plurality to win the nomination outright. The fact that it's another candidate for people to vote for who might otherwise vote for Bernie could disrupt things just enough to keep him from going past 50%. Then, of course, there's the super delegate problem for him to overcome which Bernie's campaign has admitted they don't have a strategy for.
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Originally posted by NorrinRadd View PostPlease (re)acquaint yourself with the definitions of "majority" and "plurality."
(This is a pedantic pet peeve of mine.)Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
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Originally posted by seanD View PostI brought up the popular vote because you previously said:
He doesn't have the delegate vote "sewn up," so what "leftist vote" were you referring to if not the popular vote?Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostYou are aware that there are, broadly, leftist and moderate wings of the Democrat party? If you're this ignorant on the state of things, perhaps you should consider not opining on them.
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Originally posted by seanD View PostYes, I am, which makes your initial point even less relevant.Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostNo, it makes your apparent inability to follow my argument even more obvious. For some unfathomable reason, you read "leftist" as "popular" and ran with that, and are now doubling down on attempting to somehow make this MY fault. You goofed. Why not admit it and move on? You're not as stupid as your inane quest to redirect blame makes you look.
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Originally posted by seanD View PostMaybe you should instead not be so ambiguous in your posts, like I said. "Leftist" means democrats in my book. "Progressives" is distinct and means not moderate.
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