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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post


    Thanks for confirming my POV that you and the dems are a pack of hypocritical nutjobs.
    Simple ad hom's do not an argument make. It's more of an admittance that you have no argument to make, or in other words a concession.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    It boggles the mind that a rumor about Trump colluding with Russia (which isn't even communist any more) has the Democrats trying to impeach him
    No. Trump was impeached because attempted to pressure the president of Ukraine to interfere in the US presidential election

    , yet Sanders openly embraces SOVIET Russia and communism and they consider it a "good thing"
    No he's not Communist, he's a Democratic Socialist. Bernie himself rebuked Bloomberg when the latter called him Communist:

    https://nypost.com/2020/02/19/bloomb...cratic-debate/
    “He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlight View Post
    Polling with regards to the popularity of US Senators in their home states tends to consistently report Bernie Sanders as the most-popular of the 100 US Senators.

    e.g. Morning Consult's rankings of Senators by popularity. Bernie is currently number 1 in that list with a +36% approval minus disapproval rating.

    The youtuber you mention seems to be an outlier.
    He's a libertarian in a nanny state, so yeah, a minority.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tassman View Post
    No. Trump was impeached because attempted to pressure the president of Ukraine to interfere in the US presidential election
    They have been trying to impeach him for 3 years. When they couldn't prove any Russian Collusion™ the went on to something else.


    No he's not Communist, he's a Democratic Socialist. Bernie himself rebuked Bloomberg when the latter called him Communist:

    https://nypost.com/2020/02/19/bloomb...cratic-debate/
    I didn't say he was a communist (but he is) - I said he openly embraced Soviet Russia and communism.

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    “Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.” Churchill
    Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqgC1tqifV8

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    Quote Originally Posted by seer View Post
    “Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.” Churchill
    "Democratic socialism is a philosophy of successful governance, the creed of wisdom, and the gospel of care, it's inherent virtue is the equal sharing of happiness." JimL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    They have been trying to impeach him for 3 years.
    And well they should have.

    When they couldn't prove any Russian Collusion™ the went on to something else.
    Oh they proved it all right, but the jury was biased, and when he realized he could get away with it, he went right back at it.

    I didn't say he was a communist (but he is) - I said he openly embraced Soviet Russia and communism.
    No he isn't, and no he didn't. Get a grip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    They have been trying to impeach him for 3 years. When they couldn't prove any Russian Collusion™ the went on to something else.
    "They" did impeach him and for good reason.

    And Mueller made clear that Russia meddled in the 2016 election. Further: "The U.S. Senate’s Select Committee on Intelligence released Volume 1 of its report on Russian Active Measures Campaigns and Interference in the 2016 U.S. Election is as dark as it gets. The report summarily states that “the Russian government directed extensive activity, beginning in at least 2014 and carrying into at least 2017, against U.S. election infrastructure at the state and local level.”

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/stevean.../#7be346b01ff2

    I didn't say he was a communist (but he is) - I said he openly embraced Soviet Russia and communism.
    He is a self-proclaimed Democratic Socialist - a position embraced by many countries of the Free World, including my own Australia with it's universal health care, subsidized education and generous welfare provisions.
    “He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seer View Post
    “Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.” Churchill
    And how would you describe capitalism?

    Marx wrote his philosophy in the nineteenth century, seeing the arc of capitalism over the previous century. And many others saw the inherent weaknesses of capitalism as a system. Even the weakness of a capitalist system within a democratic political system.

    Failure, ignorance, envy, and misery are not just socialist problems, many looked at capitalism and saw all those same things.

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